Popular Post Requiem Posted November 28, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Now this would certainly be something 10 1 1 "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawksfan2008 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 The totals on the GFS are obviously outrageous but a widespread snowstorm seems more and more possible once you dig in. Winds stay easterly during the main event and dew points are quite low. Maybe we’ll thread the needle! 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudJunkie Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 We've got a rain/snow mix in Lakewood! It's 40 degrees out, kind of surprising. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, RayRay said: Is he mentioning us? That Cliff mass?? I think Cliff Mass has been spying on us! I'm getting serious de ja vu here. I swear we had this exact same discussion last December about snow depth vs. snowfall, and I feel like we all know the difference. 1 1 My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, CloudJunkie said: We've got a rain/snow mix in Lakewood! It's 40 degrees out, kind of surprising. Wow, that's gotta be at the very upper limit of temps for snow to not melt by the time it reaches the ground. 1 My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, RayRay said: Is he mentioning us? That Cliff mass?? I think Cliff Mass has been spying on us! Grandpa must be getting tired 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Cliff Mass is not onboard. 2 1 1 Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWillarrive Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, gusky said: I'm getting serious de ja vu here. I swear we had this exact same discussion last December about snow depth vs. snowfall, and I feel like we all know the difference. Cliff Mass reads this forum for sure. He finds it humorous. he was wrong last December. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, RayRay said: Is he mentioning us? That Cliff mass?? I think Cliff Mass has been spying on us! If Cliff is cocksure about it NOT being a big event, that bodes well for us snow-lovers. 2 1 3 1 It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christensen87 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Hey Cliff! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 I do also feel like Cliff gets a bit too much hate here. The only things that I could point out he could do better are the ways he communicates (can be a bit confrontational) and over-relying on WRF. The latter is understandable considering his contributions to it. 2 1 My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownerd3000 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MossMan said: Cliff Mass is not onboard. Like Jim Cramer telling you to sell something, its a fat buy signal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said: Cliff Mass reads this forum for sure. He finds it humorous. he was wrong last December. I know ground temperature is basically irrelevant... that is just silly. 2 **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, Snownerd3000 said: Like Jim Cramer telling you to sell something, its a fat buy signal. This is so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyMaestro Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, RayRay said: Is he mentioning us? That Cliff mass?? I think Cliff Mass has been spying on us! This forum has snow cabins up in that guy's head, livin' rent free and everything. 1 2 𝘐𝘯 𝘮𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮𝘴, 𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘰𝘸𝘯. 𝘗𝘶𝘺𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘶𝘱. Reddit: HotlineMaestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said: Cliff Mass reads this forum for sure. He finds it humorous. he was wrong last December. We know that Justin at SWB reads it, and Cliff most likely reads it too. I have a feeling there are plenty of other prominent lurkers. Wish some of them would chip in sometimes! 3 1 My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, RayRay said: Is he mentioning us? That Cliff mass?? I think Cliff Mass has been spying on us! That roadway surface bullshit gets old. The ground will cool and snow will stick in a hurry. we've all experienced this. 1 We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said: Like Jim Cramer telling you to sell something, its a fat buy signal. With Cramer it's usually the other way around. 1 A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Wet snow/rain mix here with a moderate shower moving over. Color me surprised. Down to 38 after a high of 43. Would say first flakes of the season but we already had some late night flakeage with the early November trough. 3 Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownerd3000 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 I'm so interested in seeing the EURO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 18z is notably colder a week from now. 4 1 A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, hawkstwelve said: Oh God, here he goes with the road temperatures again. Good Lord that shtick got old a decade ago. If I had a nickel for every time Cliff Mass said we would not get snow because road temps were in the upper 30s, I would have enough money to buy the dumpster fire that is Twitter from Elon Musk. Important for him to point out though cause of the amount of new and not-as-knowledgeable readers he gets. My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, hawkstwelve said: Oh God, here he goes with the road temperatures again. Good Lord that shtick got old a decade ago. If I had a nickel for every time Cliff Mass said we would not get snow because road temps were in the upper 30s, I would have enough money to buy the dumpster fire that is Twitter from Elon Musk. He's a smart dude but crap like this is why i loose respect for his forecast. I have seen 60 degrees at my cabin and have it snow the same night 8 inches on a warm ground and pavement roads. 3 We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Classic overrunning event. 7 1 1 We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said: Cliff Mass reads this forum for sure. He finds it humorous. he was wrong last December. It’s amusing to watch his blog when his forecasts bust. He starts out by being so certain and assertive about them “this is what we know will happen”, etc. Then if it doesn’t happen, he falls oddly silent and doesn’t post for a while. Not saying they guy’s forecasts always bust (sometimes he nails it). Just that when they do, the level of emotional involvement is obvious. A more humble/less emotionally involved forecaster wouldn’t be shy about following up with a “this is why I was wrong” postmortem. 1 2 It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownerd3000 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: With Cramer it's usually the other way around. True. I went this way since Cliff is selling this event not buying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Rgem 3am Thursday. 5 We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 I can see the edge of the Tacoma snowhole off in the distance. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: He puts wayyyyy too much stock into that metric to determine that snow amounts will underperform. With heavy enough precip (which this event is at least partially relying on) the snow rates can overcome slightly "warm" road temps pretty quickly. I've seen it happen many times even after 'ol Cliff says it simply can't be done! This is especially true at night. However, in this case it's definitely not the "warm" ground/roads that will likely limit accumulations for many lower elevations. It's the actual air temperature. It's not like the ground is that warm anyway...it's been pretty cool. 1 A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, hawkstwelve said: He puts wayyyyy too much stock into that metric to determine that snow amounts will underperform. With heavy enough precip (which this event is at least partially relying on) the snow rates can overcome slightly "warm" road temps pretty quickly. I've seen it happen many times even after 'ol Cliff says it simply can't be done! January 15th, 2020 I remember a cell came through and rapidly cooled the air and coated road surfaces in a very concrete area of Capitol Hill. Wasn't as interested in weather forecasting at the time so it took me by surprise. Point is, like you said, there's plenty of evidence of these types of things overpowering high temps and road temps to let snow (briefly) stick. 7 My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepFriedEgg Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said: Classic overrunning event. That is money. Also the through a couple days after that just a touch too far north and east (at least for Portland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said: That roadway surface bullshit gets old. The ground will cool and snow will stick in a hurry. we've all experienced this. Spring time up here we have gone from upper 60's to 6" on snow on the ground in 3 hours many times. The warm ground thing is stupid. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: Oh God, here he goes with the road temperatures again. Good Lord that shtick got old a decade ago. If I had a nickel for every time Cliff Mass said we would not get snow because road temps were in the upper 30s, I would have enough money to buy the dumpster fire that is Twitter from Elon Musk. Lol. Nice. I think it's just lazy writing. It's common sense that snow won't stick immediately on warmish wet roads. All the "amateurs" on this forum have mostly fully developed frontal lobes and have a firm understanding that water melts ice. GTFO Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Does Mass really think people here are that dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 This is just a nice run. 4 or 5 snow chances for the next week. 4 1 1 We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Holy sh*t what is going to happen this week have no idea 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Snowmizer stepping up today. Thanks dude! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 ??? Temps look to be around 30-32 with offshore flow, this would be amazing 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said: Does Mass really think people here are that dumb? I'd put the knowledge of a few people on here against any pro met. 2 2 We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Snowing in skyway on my drive home. Car temp says 41 also snowing in samammish according to in laws (they don’t live by a webcam sorry Tim sunset is probably wet) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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