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27 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

i wonder how many previously active users have died. I'm always suspicious when i see prolific posters in old threads and go to their profile and its been years since they logged in. 

I remember one guy faked his death and one point. And I think at one point Phil said he’d legally died but was brought back via a roadside tracheotomy or something like that.

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I will always say that month left a lot on the table. 

Snow falling on as many days as it did in Dec 2008 was impressive for the PDX metro, what the arctic air did or didn't do was a smaller point at the time. 

I'm sure that December made a lot of winters after it feel dull. 

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'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 16
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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Only hit 40 today. Not bad. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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22 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Im envisioning something like this, including the flying baby and young Tim wearing the A-Rod jersey.

 

That poor little boy... heartbreaking.

And did those people know what a beautiful spring lay ahead?  

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29 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

I remember one guy faked his death and one point. And I think at one point Phil said he’d legally died but was brought back via a roadside tracheotomy or something like that.

Yeah, that was during the December 2008 madness, too I believe. 

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5 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

PDX kept their streak alive to.

That was close. Burns hit 33 today, if they were Winthrop they would have been in the 20s. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, MossMan said:

The crappy phone apps will get the masses stirring now! 

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The lack of a snow icon will probably keep it quiet for the time being.  

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2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

No…not at all. Phone weather apps are the absolute worst especially past 24 hours. They can be semi accurate the day of forecasting but even then…

The forecast on Randy's phone actually looks pretty accurate based on what the models are showing now.

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3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

If that forecast is accurate Randy’s gonna meltdown February 2014 style 😬

Well that is basically what the 12Z ECMWF showed.   My phone forecast seems to most closely follow the ECMWF.   I don't expect my phone to be more accurate that the ECMWF.  Obviously it could all change but there would be no way for the weather app to know that before the models do.  

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6 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

ECMWF is cold but completely screws western WA for snow... it rains on Friday and Saturday and then dries out as the cold air moves in.  

 

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That sounds about right!

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Looks like we avoided the 50F-burger. Only 49F today. 49/34 spread.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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It cleared out just like magic when the sun went down.  Another frosty night in store.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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42 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

If that forecast is accurate Randy’s gonna meltdown February 2014 style 😬

I'm glad I like dry cold.  I still think there could be snow though.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Chilly evening in progress 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm glad I like dry cold.  I still think there could be snow though.

Way too early to be worried either way. The last 2 events in the lead up overall it looked like we may get skunked entirely but it ended up working out just fine for most people in western WA. Dry cold snaps happen from time to time but the majority of cold snaps it finds a way to snow. I’m good with it either way we’ve already hit average snowfall this winter. 

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Pretty cool seeing analogs from both January 1954 and 1957 on the CPC site.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, Eujunga said:

Sunset photo time!

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Gorgeous!

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Way too early to be worried either way. The last 2 events in the lead up overall it looked like we may get skunked entirely but it ended up working out just fine for most people in western WA. Dry cold snaps happen from time to time but the majority of cold snaps it finds a way to snow. I’m good with it either way we’ve already hit average snowfall this winter. 

You are right about that.  I'll never forget the model bust in Nov 2010.  They all showed no snow for the Seattle area with that just 24 hours in advance.  Epic bust.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say SEA will see at least one day with a 35/25 or lower with the cold snap.  It seems like most of these have been working out, at least to some extent, the last couple of years.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

18Z EPS was slight west at the end of the run (144 hours).    My guess is that the 00Z runs will be very good for cold and snow.

Can't believe I forgot to check that!  No doubt the block looks a bit healthier and better placed.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say SEA will see at least one day with a 35/25 or lower with the cold snap.  It seems like most of these have been working out, at least to some extent, the last couple of years.

The first sub 40 high this winter was actually a high of 25 at PDX (on 12/22). That was pretty interesting. Then a high of 29 and 35 the next few days. No other sub-40 highs though

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