Timmy Supercell Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: Sacramento Valley, Jan 1937: Redding - snowfall probably 15-20”, monthly avg 39.9/28.3 Red Bluff - 15”, avg 43.0/27.9 Willows - 17”, monthly avg 44.8/28.0 Chico got to 12°F, monthly avg 43.8/28.2 Sacramento saw snow on four separate days but with little or no accumulation, monthly average 45.9/31.5 Didn't Redding get 12-15" in one quick storm in February 2019? Pretty sure that was within a few days of the Tacoma, WA snowstorm. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow maniac Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 Rain shadow in full effect here just sunny and breezy 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Didn't Redding get 12-15" in one quick storm in February 2019? Pretty sure that was within a few days of the Tacoma, WA snowstorm. RDD got 9”. RDD is southeast of and drier than Redding proper, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Didn't Redding get 12-15" in one quick storm in February 2019? Pretty sure that was within a few days of the Tacoma, WA snowstorm. Yep. Eugene did too. I was out of state at the time, so I basically enabled it to occur. The dolt shield was down for 30 days and some amazing happened. https://activenorcal.com/redding-receives-its-biggest-snowstorm-in-over-50-years/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, dolt said: Yep. Eugene did too. I was out of state at the time, so I basically allowed it to happen. The dolt shield was down for 30 days and some amazing happened. https://activenorcal.com/redding-receives-its-biggest-snowstorm-in-over-50-years/ My depth was never over 9.5" that whole season at my house, and can you believe while it was snowing in Redding, CA I was getting moderate rain? Of course that quickly changed right back to snow the next day. 1 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, snow_wizard said: The Weatherbell maps spit out highs low to mid 50s next weekend for SEA and widespread lows below 40 for the lowlands Saturday and Sunday nights. Currently 54 here! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: I’m sorry, I don’t see his point. Sure, the forecast from a month out stank. So what? Forecast accuracy does stink that far out. This is not exactly news. As my tagline says…. When a model consistently “busts” the same way each time, there’s something fundamentally flawed in the model..IE: it’s biased. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil said: Joe Bastardi is correct on this one. Seasonal models have become increasing warm-biased over the last decade. Almost to the point of uselessness. Looks like it was forecasting a nice pattern 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 Fred is going all Nate Silver on us. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Jesse said: Looks like it was forecasting a nice pattern Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Phil said: When a model consistently “busts” the same way each time, there’s something fundamentally flawed in the model..IE: it’s biased. It actually was too cold in the west and too warm in the east. I am guessing there was lots of spread so it ended up look uniform across the country. There was no strong signal either way. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 Facts vs. Preferences vs. Onions 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 My almost 2yr old 2 legger and 5yr old 4 legger are both enjoying this fine day! Partly cloudy and very windy! 54 degrees. 5 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: It actually was too cold in the west and too warm in the east. I am guessing there was lots of spread so it ended up look uniform across the country. There was no strong signal either way. The full CONUS average was too warm as well. Of course there’s spread and that’s why signals are weak at best, but the point is the average was too warm nationally. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 Thunder and pouring rains currently. Up to 1.34" today. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 New tablet. I know I do it every year but can someone please send me a link to the ensembles? Thanks 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said: New tablet. I know I do it every year but can someone please send me a link to the ensembles? Thanks All those conference calls really shorten tablet lifespan... 1 3 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Snowing at Stevens. 1 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Got some quarter-inch or so hail at my place in North Seattle. Lots of lightning as well. Biggest hail I've seen in Seattle in 19 years of living here. Incredible stuff. 1 1 3 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, dolt said: Yep. Eugene did too. I was out of state at the time, so I basically enabled it to occur. The dolt shield was down for 30 days and some amazing happened. https://activenorcal.com/redding-receives-its-biggest-snowstorm-in-over-50-years/ One of the 2 best snow events in EUG's record books. At some point another one of these will hopefully happen in Dec-Jan. 1 1 3 2 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said: One of the 2 best snow events in EUG's record books. At some point another one of these will hopefully happen in Dec-Jan. Good times!!! 1 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Much chillier with each run for 10+ days out. 1 2 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Much chillier with each run for 10+ days out. Man, that one ensemble going down to -11C, I want what they're having. 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: One of the 2 best snow events in EUG's record books. At some point another one of these will hopefully happen in Dec-Jan. I love Pelican! The new downtown store we have used to sell Umbrella 6-packs for $5.99 (obviously with rewards..). Now I can't find it anywhere. Those were good times to have an Umbrella over our heads... 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 [Model Countdown] Next up.... 00z GFS in 2 hours 18 minutes Later this evening.... 00z GEM/CMC in 2 hours 40 minutes 00z ECMWF in 4 hours 35 minutes Colder runs ahead? Could it be? C'MON!!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Thankfully the 18Z EPS and EPS control are way better than the 18Z gfs. They backed off a little through day 6, but it still looks decent. Day 6 is as far out as the those models go on the 18z. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: [Model Countdown] Next up.... 00z GFS in 2 hours 18 minutes Later this evening.... 00z GEM/CMC in 2 hours 40 minutes 00z ECMWF in 4 hours 35 minutes Colder runs ahead? Could it be? C'MON!!!! I hope that 18z GFS was just a hiccup. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Today was a real bust for anything interesting here. Way too much SW wind/ down sloping off the Olympics. Days like this are pretty frustrating here when watching places in the C-Zone and south of here getting much more interesting weather. No doubt it's a whole lot cooler today though. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Up to 1.91" after the thunderstorm. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Timberline Lodge got their first snow of the season. 1 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Snowing at the summit of Stevens Pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 The 0z (insert model here) is going to be insane tonight! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said: Got some quarter-inch or so hail at my place in North Seattle. Lots of lightning as well. Biggest hail I've seen in Seattle in 19 years of living here. Incredible stuff. Where in north seattle are you? I’m in the Greenwood area. A few July’s ago was the largest hail I had ever seen. It was different than how most hails storms start around here. There was no rain just random large chunks of hail. I was sitting outside and thought someone threw something at my car. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, jcmcgaffey said: Where in north seattle are you? I’m in the Greenwood area. A few July’s ago was the largest hail I had ever seen. It was different than how most hails storms start around here. There was no rain just random large chunks of hail. I was sitting outside and thought someone threw something at my car. I'm in Lake City. I remember that morning. No hail here, but lots of lightning and various midlevel pop-up showers. Do you remember how big the hailstones were? Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 60/53 0.95” today. Was a decent amount of sunshine today actually...was pretty breezy too. Also up to 1.58” for October. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Feels like a November evening suddenly. The wind makes it even cooler outside. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 63/55 and 1.3" of rain since midnight. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Any pregame thoughts about the 00z? Keys to victory? Players to watch? Sponsor shoutouts? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Any pregame thoughts about the 00z? Keys to victory? Players to watch? Sponsor shoutouts? Pregame cancelled due to Dori Monson and the Gorton Fisherman being suspended because of extreme EPS bias. 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 First fireplace fire up of the season! Forty nine degrees currently. And I’m currently watching a show about young couple that just bought this lovely home on the water...Should be a relaxing evening! 1 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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