[Missing] March 2022 PNW Wx Discussion

[TT-SEA]

21 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

It is okay to be wet and cool in the spring when living in the PNW.

Normal spring weather around here is bad enough.     

[Skagit Weather]

30 minutes ago, 1000'NorthBend said:

44°F and 0.86" for the day. Recent rains are noticeably different from winter rains.  No more losing entire days to rainfall, plenty of opportunities for dry walks with birds chirping and frogs croaking. You just might get caught in a brief hail downpour, which is fun in its own way with kids.

I agree completely, especially with the extra 4 hours of daylight we have every day.

I don't know what the talk about this month (or this winter) being dreary and depressing in Western Washington is about. I spend at least an hour if not more outside everyday and it's been beautiful the last couple weeks. Sure, some days have featured rain, but quite a few of them haven't and the Cascade snowpack has been building which is nice to see after a quiet Jan/Feb. Definitely happy to live in a place where water is not a problem and (hopefully) fire season will be as quiet as it usually is on the west side.

[Meatyorologist]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Good lord.

Bringing back the good old times.

[Deweydog]

Just now, Meatyorologist said:

Bringing back the good old times.

I’m having a nostalgic Monday.

[TT-SEA]

18Z GFS shifted the precip farther north overall compared to the 12Z GFS... looks like the ECMWF and EPS.  

Apparently a pattern in which the storm track goes through CA is impossible now.    That can be pretty common as we move into the ULL season.     I guess there are hints of that on this run showing a little wetter than normal for SoCal. 

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

I agree completely, especially with the extra 4 hours of daylight we have every day.

I don't know what the talk about this month (or this winter) being dreary and depressing in Western Washington is about. I spend at least an hour if not more outside everyday and it's been beautiful the last couple weeks. Sure, some days have featured rain, but quite a few of them haven't and the Cascade snowpack has been building which is nice to see after a quiet Jan/Feb. Definitely happy to live in a place where water is not a problem and (hopefully) fire season will be as quiet as it usually is on the west side.

The first part of March was actually pretty nice.    The last week has been pretty dreary overall... particularly the last 3 days for the Seattle area.     Looks like a better pattern is coming... not totally dry but also not perpetual warm front drizzle which has been happening here since Saturday evening.  

[Meatyorologist]

Some say every cloud that exists without Tim’s permission brings Jesse one step closer to enlightenment.

[TT-SEA]

Temps are slowly rising now as the warm front is lifting north.    This pattern has been unfavorable for frosty nights... which seems to be allowing the spring green up to accelerate.  

[TacomaWaWx]

10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Temps are slowly rising now as the warm front is lifting north.    This pattern has been unfavorable for frosty nights... which seems to be allowing the spring green up to accelerate.  

We’ve been getting high temps consistently in the 50s for a couple weeks now…and just one freeze on 3/10. Cherry blossoms are showing up on the trees…spring is pretty close now. 

[MWG]

Ready for my 80 degree weather tomorrow! 

[Deweydog]

1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

Some say every cloud that exists without Tim’s permission brings Jesse one step closer to enlightenment.

Ice burns brightest under a thick overcast. 

[Meatyorologist]

52 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Ice burns brightest under a thick overcast. 

...And ten other phrases that will make people avoid you

[gusky]

Who's wearing shorts tomorrow? 60 is plenty hot enough for me!

[seattleweatherguy]

20 minutes ago, gusky said:

Who's wearing shorts tomorrow? 60 is plenty hot enough for me!

Boats and

[Cloud]

Fall-like and gloomy today. Tomorrow will be different. Can’t get any bipolar than this around here. 

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

2 minutes ago, Cloud said:

I see Tim has been trying to drive home the narrative that it’s been quite wet. Like drilling it into our heads on a daily basis. Gives him an argument for when it starts to dry around here and argue with people for bringing up dry weather. Going to be FUN!

Do you also have a problem with the National Weather Service? They tweeted this today:

"Seattle winter stats using full days (Dec. 22 to Mar 19 ). 78 years of records.
Avg. temperature 41.2°, 2.7° below normal (26th coldest).
Total precipitation 16.42", 2.40" above normal (20th wettest).
Number of days measurable precip. 43 (49%), normal  51 days.  
#LaNina #wawx"

[Meatyorologist]

3 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Do you also have a problem with the National Weather Service? They tweeted this today:

"Seattle winter stats using full days (Dec. 22 to Mar 19 ). 78 years of records.
Avg. temperature 41.2°, 2.7° below normal (26th coldest).
Total precipitation 16.42", 2.40" above normal (20th wettest).
Number of days measurable precip. 43 (49%), normal  51 days.  
#LaNina #wawx"

Didn't even mention snowfall...

[Omegaraptor]

6 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Hopefully April isn't record breaking like March!

I live at 47 degrees north latitude immediately downwind from the world's largest ocean, in the western slopes of a mountain range that experiences significant orographic lift in the predominant wind direction at this time of year.

Why is it raining?

[TT-SEA]

13 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

I live at 47 degrees north latitude immediately downwind from the world's largest ocean, in the western slopes of a mountain range that experiences significant orographic lift in the predominant wind direction at this time of year.

Why is it raining?

Again... totally off point.     All of my comments are in relation to normal and departures from normal.  Not that it's rainy here.   That is a given.    But we do have lots of nice days per climo... and we are due. 

[Deweydog]

57 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

...And ten other phrases that will make people avoid you

Like “man, this rash and discharge are really annoying.”

[TT-SEA]

11 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Didn't even mention snowfall...

Good point... that is a pretty big oversight on their part.

[TacomaWaWx]

50/41 0.41” today and 2.79” this month. Running -0.5 for the month and we’re at about 60% of normal rainfall for March. 
 Overall, it’s been a decently wet rainy season. Classic nina rainy season and overall cooler than normal/average temps with the exception of November.

 Only below normal rainfall month SEP-MAR was December…with about 80% of normal rainfall. Every other month has been at or above normal rainfall. 
 If the euro is right…we will be at about 80% of the average rainfall for March. Averaging out the last 6 months the whole period here has been slightly wetter than normal…despite the weather overall being very dry from mid January all the way to the end of February. 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said:

 Only below normal rainfall month SEP-MAR was December…with about 80% of normal rainfall. Every other month has been at or above normal rainfall. 
 If the euro is right…we will be at about 80% of the average rainfall for March. Averaging out the last 6 months the whole period here has been slightly wetter than normal…despite the weather overall being very dry from mid January all the way to the end of February. 

Are you sure about that?

SEA is +7.25 and OLM is +7.46 since October 1st.

[Meatyorologist]

12 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Again... totally off point.     All of my comments are in relation to normal and departures from normal.  Not that it's rainy here.   That is a given.    But we do have lots of nice days per climo... and we are due. 

Seattle had less rainy days than usual over the winter per the NWS. January offered extensive dry, sunny weather. February did as well. December brought dazzling clear, cold weather with snow on the ground. Precipitation has been concentrated into large rainfall events. This winter has been generous to you, if anything.

Hell, I'd say we're majorly overdue for a +EPO/-PNA/-ENSO troughfest with a chilly April-June. It's been over a decade.

[TacomaWaWx]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Are you sure about that?

SEA is +7.25 and OLM is +7.46 since October 1st.

+7.84 here since 10/1. Looking at the euro…we would finish the 10/1-3/31 period about +6.50 roughly. I wouldn’t call it much wetter than normal but yes definitely wetter than normal. 

[TT-SEA]

11 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Seattle had less rainy days than usual over the winter per the NWS. January offered extensive dry, sunny weather. February did as well. December brought dazzling clear, cold weather with snow on the ground. Precipitation has been concentrated into large rainfall events. This winter has been generous to you, if anything.

Hell, I'd say we're majorly overdue for a +EPO/-PNA/-ENSO troughfest with a chilly April-June. It's been over a decade.

Totally agree about the nature of this rainy season.    I prefer getting lots of rain all at once with more dry days mixed in.    The 'days with rain' statistics for this winter were pretty favorable.     But its also been very wet.    And its been wetter than normal every month since September except for December... so statistically we are likely to see some drier than normal months coming up.    Doesn't mean it will happen though.  

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

+7.84 here since 10/1. Looking at the euro…we would finish the 10/1-3/31 period about +6.50 roughly. I wouldn’t call it much wetter than normal but yes definitely wetter than normal. 

+7.84 inches is significantly wet.     A deficit of 7.84 inches would not be called slightly drier than normal   

[TacomaWaWx]

3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Totally agree about the nature of this rainy season.    I prefer getting lots of rain all at once with more dry days mixed in.    The 'days with rain' statistics for this winter were pretty favorable.     But its also been very wet.    And its been wetter than normal every month since September except for December... so statistically we are likely to see some drier than normal months coming up.   

I get the feeling either April or may will be a warmer drier than normal month. I don’t sense this spring will be like some of the springs we had a decade ago like 2011. This March will likely be the wettest March since 2017 here however despite likely being below normal. 

[TT-SEA]

5 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

I get the feeling either April or may will be a warmer drier than normal month. I don’t sense this spring will be like some of the springs we had a decade ago like 2011. This March will likely be the wettest March since 2017 here however despite likely being below normal. 

I thought last summer was going to be cool and wet... in the middle of a multi-year Nina at the bottom of the solar cycle.  That did not happen.  I have absolutely no idea what this spring and summer will be like.  

[Meatyorologist]

Luck-E

[TacomaWaWx]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

I thought last summer was going to be cool and wet... middle of a multi-year Nina at the bottom of the solar cycle.    I have absolutely no idea what this spring and summer will be like.  

Summer will probably be warmer and drier than normal as per usual the last 10 years. Probably not excessively so IMO. 

[Blizzard777]

1 hour ago, gusky said:

Who's wearing shorts tomorrow? 60 is plenty hot enough for me!

Golf in the real world!!! 

[The Blob]

[MossMan]

.89” on the day, 5.37” for the month. 

[Cloud]

1 hour ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Do you also have a problem with the National Weather Service? They tweeted this today:

"Seattle winter stats using full days (Dec. 22 to Mar 19 ). 78 years of records.
Avg. temperature 41.2°, 2.7° below normal (26th coldest).
Total precipitation 16.42", 2.40" above normal (20th wettest).
Number of days measurable precip. 43 (49%), normal  51 days.  
#LaNina #wawx"

What “problem” do you speak of?  I do love bantering with Tim and give him a lot of shiit about our weather around here.  

[Cloud]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

This is not entirely true.   Andrew was on a roll trolling today so I just responded with actual stats. 

But yeah... there is no denying that it's been very wet rainy season up here.    No matter how hard Andrew wants all of us to be moping around kicking the dirt and lamenting how it never rains any more.  That is the sad Andrew showing up today.    

Anyone denying that it hasn’t been wet this past fall and winter is joking themselves. Seattle even had an above average snowfall season. This LaNina delivered. 

[Phil]

Week-2 EPS is more favorable for CA. Very different pattern.

[SouthHillFrosty]

Got hit with a 13k plumbing bill at the new house......nice

[Dan the Weatherman]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

This is not entirely true.   Andrew was on a roll trolling today so I just responded with actual stats. 

But yeah... there is no denying that it's been very wet rainy season up here.    No matter how hard Andrew wants all of us to be moping around kicking the dirt and lamenting how it never rains any more.  That is the sad Andrew showing up today.    

The issue is that it has been wet in your area as well as much of coastal WA at least to the Cascades, but it has been drier than average to megadrought-dry in the rest of the West as a whole. Your area has received more rain than about 95% of the West, and it is time for the pattern to change that allows storms to penetrate other parts of the West that really need it! Other people who have been complaining about the lack of rain have experienced quite a dry year compared to you and others who live in the zone that has been wet.

[SnowWillarrive]

12 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Got hit with a 13k plumbing bill at the new house......nice

Would could possibly cost that much? Main water line?