December 2018 Weather in the Pacific Northwest

[Phil]

[Requiem]

Alright, question for everyone- in terms of dynamics and eventual snow totals, as well as other attributes (observations, snow rates, temperatures, location, how widespread it was, etc.) of the following four?

 

January 10th-11th, 2017?

 

February 5th-6th, 2017?

 

December 20th-22nd, 2008?

 

February 6th-9th, 2014?

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Alright, question for everyone- in terms of dynamics and eventual snow totals, as well as other attributes (observations, snow rates, temperatures), which was the more impressive winter storm?

 

January 10th-11th, 2017?

 

Or February 5th-6th, 2017?

 

For areas south of Salem, neither.

[Requiem]

For areas south of Salem, neither.

 

Added one just for you!

[AbbyJr]

Yeah, the vortex is gonna take a huge hit during the third week of December. Big time wave-1.

 

But will that be enough to kill it? The fate of your winter might very well depend on whether or not it survives.

 

The pressure is on!

 

So essentially we need to kill the polar vortex in order to get arctic air into SW BC and PNW?

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Alright, question for everyone- in terms of dynamics and eventual snow totals, as well as other attributes (observations, snow rates, temperatures, location, how widespread it was, etc.) of the following four?

 

January 10th-11th, 2017?

 

February 5th-6th, 2017?

 

December 10th, 2008?

 

February 6th-9th, 2014?

 

Feb 6-9, 2014 easily. That was a Willamette Valley Special for 2-3 days and an incredible winter in the south Valley. Probly the best lowland snow out of the event in early Dec that dropped lows to -10.

 

The 1/4/17 event that impacted Redding-Corvallis was apparently a nice one too (I lived in Monmouth in 16-17).  We don't get enough of those types of events (I realise they're exceedingly rare).

[Deweydog]

Alright, question for everyone- in terms of dynamics and eventual snow totals, as well as other attributes (observations, snow rates, temperatures, location, how widespread it was, etc.) of the following four?

 

January 10th-11th, 2017?

 

February 5th-6th, 2017?

 

December 10th, 2008?

 

February 6th-9th, 2014?

Is this a trick question? Two of those periods had absolutely no snow whatsoever locally.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Pretty sure december 10 2008 was about like today.

[Requiem]

Is this a trick question? Two of those periods had absolutely no snow whatsoever locally.

 

Not in terms of how it did for an individual location per se, but how impressive it was in the locations in which it did perform well. So not in a personal sense, but rather from an objective standpoint. If you kinda get what I mean.

[Front Ranger]

That’s definitely not a cold loading pattern.

 

You’re probably thinking of an Aleutian Ridge/+EPO pattern, like 2007/08 or 2011/12, which does build cold across AK/Yukon.

 

This is more of a classic jet extension with a vortex over the GOA/Aleutians, which will blast warm Pacific air into western Canada and build cold air in Siberia.

 

The cold is already building in AK at day 10.

 

Say whatever you want, but I've observed the models and large scale patterns for a long time. Occasionally I actually know what I'm talking about.

[Jesse]

Yeah, the vortex is gonna take a huge hit during the third week of December. Big time wave-1.

 

But will that be enough to kill it? The fate of your winter might very well depend on whether or not it survives.

 

The pressure is on!

 

If I send you money via paypal will it help our odds?

[Deweydog]

Not in terms of how it did for an individual location per se, but how impressive it was in the locations in which it did perform well. So not in a personal sense, but rather from an objective standpoint. If you kinda get what I mean.

12-10-08 had absolutely no impact weather of any kind. Early February 2017 was a Puget Sound event, very wet down here but a bit too warm for snow. Lots of chunky rain, though.

[Front Ranger]

12-10-08 had absolutely no impact weather of any kind. Early February 2017 was a Puget Sound event, very wet down here but a bit too warm for snow. Lots of chunky rain, though.

 

I'm assuming he meant 12-14-2008.

[Requiem]

12-10-08 had absolutely no impact weather of any kind. Early February 2017 was a Puget Sound event, very wet down here but a bit too warm for snow. Lots of chunky rain, though.

 

Oh no, changing my question....

[Deweydog]

I'm assuming he meant 12-14-2008.

It snowed that day.

 

And Justin lost his mind.

[GHweatherChris]

The cold is already building in AK at day 10.

 

Say whatever you want, but I've observed the models and large scale patterns for a long time. Occasionally I actually know what I'm talking about.

Unfortunately noone other than Phil know what they are talking about, lol!!

[Esquimalt]

Alright, question for everyone- in terms of dynamics and eventual snow totals, as well as other attributes (observations, snow rates, temperatures, location, how widespread it was, etc.) of the following four?

 

January 10th-11th, 2017?

 

February 5th-6th, 2017?

 

December 20th-22nd, 2008?

 

February 6th-9th, 2014?

Well, I would go with 

 

December 2008 first

February 2017 second

February 2014 had a nice event up here but it was later in the month

And unfortunately it was just cold and sunny up here in January 2017. 

[Esquimalt]

Is this a trick question? Two of those periods had absolutely no snow whatsoever locally.

Lol it depends on where u live

[Deweydog]

Lol it depends on where u live

This is incontrovertibly true.

[Deweydog]

Pretty sure december 10 2008 was about like today.

I wouldn't have wanted to go skinny dipping that day.

[Phil]

So essentially we need to kill the polar vortex in order to get arctic air into SW BC and PNW?

Looks that way, yeah. Hard to see what else could possibly do the job at this point.

[Phil]

The cold is already building in AK at day 10.

 

Say whatever you want, but I've observed the models and large scale patterns for a long time. Occasionally I actually know what I'm talking about.

There is no cold air building anywhere.

 

Get your eyes checked.

 

[Phil]

^^ Lol. If that’s the definition of “cold air building”, then I’m the f**king pope.

 

No offense.

[Deweydog]

Unfortunately noone other than Phil know what they are talking about, lol!!

He's kinda right. Flatiron tends to fall in love with day 10 maps on models, particularly the Euro.

[MossMan]

He's kinda right. Flatiron tends to fall in love with day 10 maps on models, particularly the Euro.

We still have MLK Day to look forward to!

[Deweydog]

We still have MLK Day to look forward to!

For 35 years and counting...

 

It's a warm phase tradition!

[ShawniganLake]

Alright, question for everyone- in terms of dynamics and eventual snow totals, as well as other attributes (observations, snow rates, temperatures, location, how widespread it was, etc.) of the following four?

 

January 10th-11th, 2017?

 

February 5th-6th, 2017?

 

December 20th-22nd, 2008?

 

February 6th-9th, 2014?

December 28/29th 1996

[Front Ranger]

^^ Lol. If that’s the definition of “cold air building”, then I’m the f**king pope.

 

No offense.

There's literally below normal 850s in AK at day 10.

[BLI snowman]

Pretty awful pattern. Looks like a classic winter goose egg unfolding for us.

[Front Ranger]

He's kinda right. Flatiron tends to fall in love with day 10 maps on models, particularly the Euro.

Yep, I'm the only one who comments on day 10 Euro maps.

[Jbolin]

God, I ******* hate x-mas. 

[Deweydog]

Fugh.

[ShawniganLake]

I mowed some lawns today.

[El_Nina]

Already down to 34.

[Jesse]

God, I f***** hate x-mas. 

 

That's too bad. It likes you.

[umadbro]

Jesse always has an opinion about your opinion.

[Jbolin]

That's too bad. It likes you.

I like your optimism

[Jesse]

Jesse always has an opinion about your opinion.

Hmmmm...this sounds like an opinion, IMO.

[Phil]

There's literally below normal 850s in AK at day 10.

OMG dude, there’s a tiny sliver of blue over Barrow with much of Alaska still running warm.

 

Arctic air building!!

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

That 00z was god awful.