Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 The 12z EURO EPS Control run looks promising at day 15. Positive 850mb temps up into Alaska with a SE ridge. Just need the ridge to amplify and retrograde some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 A dynamic summer where they hit 100 a few times and also get some nice troughs, convective outbreaks and marine pushes would be great. Unfortunately we seem to get dullsville Stockton-lite stuff these days. Weeks of 80s and 90s with little to no variation. Maybe a token morning clouds/70s thrown in every few weeks.Sounds delightful either way. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Ya , I am not feeling it, I think increasing clouds will hold temps up and upper air will warm rapidly ahead of the precip. Hoping for a surprise though.Offshore flow can do some magic sometimes. An advisory for wind in the east Puget sound lowlands is a good sign. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Depends what part of the east you’re talking about, but most of our rainfall occurs during the warm season with thunderstorms and tropical downpours. Tough to keep drought going for very long. Winter is our “dry season” and generally speaking, cold winters are drier than warm winters here. So having warmth + drought for an extended period of time is extremely difficult. FWIW, we’ve had plenty of warm winters recently. The winters of 2012/13, 2015/16, and 2016/17 were extremely warm, and 2017/18 was slightly warmer than average. Also, the last two winters (16/17 and 17/18) were both pathetic for snowfall..combined they still add up to a below average single-season total.Ah interesting that makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Impressive looking storm off the coast: https://www.atmos.washington.edu/weather/sat.shtml 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Back home... power is on and there is still a little snow left in the grassy areas. A few ice pellets falling now too. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 384! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Sounds delightful either way.I prefer the latter scenario. Nothing better than watching our native vegetation slowly die off or be consumed by flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 I prefer the latter scenario. Nothing better than watching our native vegetation slowly die off or be consumed by flames. Only YOU can prevent forest fires. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Only YOU can prevent forest fires. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 I prefer the latter scenario. Nothing better than watching our native vegetation slowly die off or be consumed by flames. There has been plenty of rain in forks and Seattle. 1 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 There has been plenty of rain in forks and Seattle. Much more than just those two cities... but you already know that. This is the kind of post that keeps the divisive banter going. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Pretty good agreement in the long range ensembles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 There has been plenty of rain in forks and Seattle.Seems like Forks would be a good place to hold the official giving-up-on-winter weenie convention next weekend. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Pretty good agreement in the long range ensembles 988B3F80-6053-4070-B46D-2A5EE4989686.png DA28BA66-3A6E-4377-AE26-F7F3554D2E21.png 95539274-D9A7-4EA9-B80F-47F9A793AA35.pngLate February/early March!!! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Pretty good agreement in the long range ensembles 988B3F80-6053-4070-B46D-2A5EE4989686.png DA28BA66-3A6E-4377-AE26-F7F3554D2E21.png 95539274-D9A7-4EA9-B80F-47F9A793AA35.pngNow to retract that jet a little more and perhaps retrograde the ridge for a backdoor shot. Or try the Hail Mary with the monster W-Arctic block and dam a bunch of cold air into SW-Canada. Both will be tough to do. But as counterintuitive as it seems, even with the ridgier look, these solutions are dynamically “closer” to getting continental/Arctic air into the region than the Pacific hose jobs are. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Now to retract that jet a little more and perhaps retrograde the ridge for a backdoor shot. Or try the Hail Mary with the monster W-Arctic block and dam a bunch of cold air into SW-Canada. Both will be tough to do. But as counterintuitive as it seems, even with the ridgier look, these solutions are dynamically “closer” to getting continental/Arctic air into the region than the Pacific hose jobs are.That's right. You can't spell hope without EPO. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 So blocking is better than zonal flow for cold weather fans? 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 So blocking is better than zonal flow for cold weather fans? Allegedly Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Looks like we could outdo January 2018 for warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Looks like we could outdo January 2018 for warmth. And next year we will outdo Jan 19. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 It’s January 7th. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 It’s January 7th.Ugh! A week has already been wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Ugh! A week has already been wastedA week closer to inversion season! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 A week closer to inversion season! Isn't fog most common in November and early December? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 It’s January 7th.Seems like yesterday that it was only November 7th. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I seriously think next winter will be even worse and mtn snow will also be terrible too if it's a godzilla nino. Hopefully I can move to Bend by 2020. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Euro weeklies look great! If you live east of Indiana. 1 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Looks like we could outdo January 2018 for warmth. If it ends up being a drier than normal month, that is unlikely. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jones Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I seriously think next winter will be even worse and mtn snow will also be terrible too if it's a godzilla nino. Hopefully I can move to Bend by 2020. Unlikely it will be worse than this one even if it is a strong Nino. If this winter ends up being the all time dud it's shaping up to be (still only January 7th so things could change) it would take almost nothing to surpass it. Plus second year Ninos are often better than the first, '15-'16 was much better than the preceding winter for example, as was '87-'88. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 PDX's low max so far this season is 42 and their season low is 29. Neither mark looks likely to be bested any time in the near future and both marks would be all time records for futility. Even in 2002-03, PDX managed a high of 41 at one point, and a low of 27. Factor in the ongoing dryness and this is shaping up to be a pretty special breed of dud. A Sacramento winter following a Sacramento summer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 It’s January 7th. In the interest of full disclosure, January 8th IS fast approaching. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Unlikely it will be worse than this one even if it is a strong Nino. If this winter ends up being the all time dud it's shaping up to be (still only January 7th so things could change) it would take almost nothing to surpass it. Plus second year Ninos are often better than the first, '15-'16 was much better than the preceding winter for example, as was '87-'88. It's a pretty small sample size...there have only been back to back Ninos 5 times since 1950. Those 5 have ranged from terrible (1969-70) to bad (2015-16, 1987-88) to ok (1977-78, 1958-59) regionally. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Weather geek delight...So I pull up to my parent’s house today and I’m only outta my car 30 seconds when my dad comes out and says “Let’s go look at the storm damage in the neighborhood!” So we hop back in the car and drive around talking about the storm and some of the damage, taking pictures etc. I think my dad is a weather geek at heart and I get teary eyed with his excitement for the weather! He’s been helping maintain my/his station at his house since 1995. Clearing debris away from it, taking snow measurements and making general observations. Couldn’t love him more! The tree that took out power to my parents. Tree snapped on my dads block. My dad looks at a pine tree on his property that snapped off. Peak wind there was just 39 mph but he mentions it was very gusty/erratic. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 PDX's low max so far this season is 42 and their season low is 29. Neither mark looks likely to be bested any time in the near future and both marks would be all time records for futility. Even in 2002-03, PDX managed a high of 41 at one point, and a low of 27. Factor in the ongoing dryness and this is shaping up to be a pretty special breed of dud. A Sacramento winter following a Sacramento summer.At least there’s no tule fog yet... Oh wait. There was tule fog in Salem on 11/25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 PDX's low max so far this season is 42 and their season low is 29. Neither mark looks likely to be bested any time in the near future and both marks would be all time records for futility. Even in 2002-03, PDX managed a high of 41 at one point, and a low of 27. Factor in the ongoing dryness and this is shaping up to be a pretty special breed of dud. A Sacramento winter following a Sacramento summer. Even if there is no modified continental/Arctic air the rest of the way, pretty decent odds of a ridgy inversion at some point, which would probably get the job done. Then again, climo was thrown out the window and then bludgeoned to death by Tim. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 PDX already down to 40 as of 6pm. Seems pretty chilly for this late in the spring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 It's a pretty small sample size...there have only been back to back Ninos 5 times since 1950. Those 5 have ranged from terrible (1969-70) to bad (2015-16, 1987-88) to ok (1977-78, 1958-59) regionally. Well we can take 1969-70 off the table because it was preceded by one of our great winters of all time. I would agree a bad, but slightly less bad winter is looking most likely. If so the 2014/15-2019/20 stretch of winters will go down as one of the worst 6 year stretches on record. People with more knowledge of the first half of the 20th century will need to chime in, but at least as bad as the 1999/2000-2004/05 stretch and maybe the worst stretch since the late 30s early 40s? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 A non-torchy 40/33 day today. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 The average high at SLE last January was 52.1...If we end up warmer than that... Their coldest max was 45 and they had 4 60+ highs. The average low was also 39.4. They have already had a high of 43 this month and equaled last January with 2 sub freezing lows (25,26 both below the monthly low in 2018). That said the next week looks pretty mild, we'll have to see if it overachieves on warmth to keep us in the ballpark. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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