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Bleh ice storm on the 26th based on the gfs and a horrible drive across Iowa on the 27th. I've done one ice storm across Iowa, I really don't want to do another.

Just don't drive thru Waterloo. Drove in Iowa in an ice storm last Winter. Was fine until I got into Waterloo, saw 20 accidents in Waterloo and I had to go 30 on the highway, then it was fine again when I got out of Waterloo.

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Gorgeous day outside. Currently a blend of sun n clouds w temps in the upper teens (18F). There is a dusting of snow around in spots.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Jingle Bells...Jingle Bells...jingle all the way!   :)

 

When I turned-in last night about 11:30 it was ripping in Marshall. Near whiteout conditions! Stepped out to 2.5" of fresh powda. Plows were out in force. Nice little mini-storm to tide me over until things get real again post-Christmas. 

 

Heading out thru town this morning..

 

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There ya go bud! Enjoy it. No snowman??!! :P ;)

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Love the way the 12z GFS is trending!

Fill me in amigo...details??!! :unsure:

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Since not much is going on weather wise i thought this was an interesting comparison ond snowfall during Dec 1-16th over the last 5 years. Take me back to 2016 :)

The rest of that winter was horrible though. I remember in Feb ‘17, I was out in shorts and t-shirts soaking up the sunshine with days in the 60’s and 70’s! That was an incredibly warm month. The West coast had a historic winter with non stop winter storms and cold.

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The rest of that winter was horrible though. I remember in Feb ‘17, I was out in shorts and t-shirts soaking up the sunshine with days in the 60’s and 70’s! That was an incredibly warm month. The West coast had a historic winter with non stop winter storms and cold.

Yes your right. Forgot about FEB 17. crazy warm

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Cold and stormy after Christmas.  Big storm on the 28th and 29th, next step for the GFS will be to go even colder.

Thanks for the updates bud...... :D

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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I was stuck between 2 bands.  Only had about an inch here.  

 

Yikes! at crappy bad luck but at least you got that surprise hit back on the 1st. I had nada down here with that one. 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Getting a few flurries now w temps at 18F. Its a little breezy as well making a WCF of 2F. Could be a lot colder than this, so, its not too bad.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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That winter should be dubbed “The Dakota’s Special”....every single storm seemed to trend NW...

 

It's crazy that Bismark had a 30" deep snow depth before a mid January lengthy meltdown.  Then things turned around and the snowpack refreshed itself after a few weeks.  Only to have a second larger meltdown in February topped off with a large spring like rainfall Presidents day weekend effectively putting the final dagger in the snowmobile season in all the midwest.

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Euro just threw in a snow system on the 26th... but it looks like the kind of feature that could disappear the next run.

 

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Better get the NAO and AO to go negative or that current track of the GFS will be much farther to the NW.

 

Still a warm look to the GFS. That storm modeled has it snowing with temps in the 30’s.

 

The Canadian model pumps warm air out in front of it and it’s all rain in KC. Doesn’t go out far enough, but it has temps in the 50’s before the storm arrives.

 

Need the cold to get here and lock in. After the next 10 days there will be no snow cover in the Plains and many areas of the Midwest.

 

Hopefully the models trend colder. Come on Jan and Feb, let’s get cold and stormy.

 

Currently 34 degrees in KC and the melt off is underway! It’s much slower this time of year however, low sun angle.

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Better get the NAO and AO to go negative or that current track of the GFS will be much farther to the NW.

 

Still a warm look to the GFS. That storm modeled has it snowing with temps in the 30’s.

 

The Canadian model pumps warm air out in front of it and it’s all rain in KC. Doesn’t go out far enough, but it has temps in the 50’s before the storm arrives.

 

Need the cold to get here and lock in. After the next 10 days there will be no snow cover in the Plains and many areas of the Midwest.

 

Hopefully the models trend colder. Come on Jan and Feb, let’s get cold and stormy.

 

Currently 34 degrees in KC and the melt off is underway! It’s much slower this time of year however, low sun angle.

It's looking like the AO may be willing to play ball.

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Better get the NAO and AO to go negative or that current track of the GFS will be much farther to the NW.

 

Still a warm look to the GFS. That storm modeled has it snowing with temps in the 30’s.

 

The Canadian model pumps warm air out in front of it and it’s all rain in KC. Doesn’t go out far enough, but it has temps in the 50’s before the storm arrives.

 

Need the cold to get here and lock in. After the next 10 days there will be no snow cover in the Plains and many areas of the Midwest.

 

Hopefully the models trend colder. Come on Jan and Feb, let’s get cold and stormy.

 

Currently 34 degrees in KC and the melt off is underway! It’s much slower this time of year however, low sun angle.

Yea I just checked the KC Scout webcam site, which is awesome by the way, and places that had a deep snowpack yesterday you can already start to see some grass in places.  My brother's place has a temp at this moment of 40 degrees in Shawnee according to Wunderground.  Will you have any snow left by Sunday?

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I doubt the snow last that long. I live on the NE side of the city, stay a lot cooler out here. I’m still at 31 degrees and the snow pack is still quite dense.

 

50’s this weekend, I think it will be totally gone for sure.

That's too bad.  Frustrating when you get a big snow for the KC area and it doesn't last a week.  I know my relatives in Shawnee were hoping for a white Christmas.  We still have big snow piles in lots and some smaller drifts on the north side of houses from our pre Thanksgiving snowstorm.  Those won't count for a white Christmas unfortunately.  

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Anyone planning on going to Australia better prepare themselves for a major heatwave there:

 

SYDNEY (AP) — Australia experienced its hottest day on record and temperatures are expected to soar even higher as heatwave conditions embrace most of the country.

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology said the average temperature across the country of 40.9 degrees Celsius (105 Fahrenheit) Tuesday beat the record of 40.3 Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) from Jan. 7, 2013.

“This hot air mass is so extensive, the preliminary figures show that yesterday was the hottest day on record in Australia, beating out the previous record from 2013 and this heat will only intensify,” bureau meteorologist Diana Eadie said in a video statement on Wednesday.

The weather bureau said temperatures in southern and central Australia on Thursday may reach between 8 and 16 degrees higher than normal.

On Wednesday temperatures soared to 47.7 Celsius (118 Fahrenheit) in Birdsville, Queensland, 46.9 Celsius (116 Fahrenheit) in Mandora, Western Australia and similar levels in southern and central Australia.

The highest temperature reliably recorded in any location in Australia was 50.7 Celsius (123 Fahrenheit) in January 1960, at Oodnadatta, a desert settlement in outback South Australia .

High temperatures and strong winds are also fanning bushfires around Australia, including more than 100 in New South Wales state where heat and smoke have caused an increase in hospital admissions.

Cooler conditions are forecast from Friday.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Attm, 17F under sunny skies. Got a dusting of snow as well here.

 

Congrats to the MI peeps last night who scored a little snow.

 

Thx buddy, looks like I got lucky  ;)

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Thx buddy, looks like I got lucky  ;)

You bet!

 

I bet you didn't expect that "Headline" to pop in ya forecast outta nowhere, eh!! :lol: ;)

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Yes your right. Forgot about FEB 17. crazy warm

 

That winter should be dubbed “The Dakota’s Special”....every single storm seemed to trend NW...

 

That was the "Nino hang-over" winter. It's amazing we had such an awesome December considering this current string of lame Dec's has been blamed on Nino and/or Nino-ish SST's. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Snow Squall Warning for New York City     WOW!

 

From 3:18pm EST, Wed Dec 18 until 4:15pm EST, Wed Dec 18

Action Recommended: Avoid the subject event as per the instructions Issued by: New York City - NY, US, National Weather Service,

The National Weather Service in Upton NY has issued a * Snow Squall Warning for... Central New London County in southern Connecticut... Fairfield County in southern Connecticut... Middlesex County in southern Connecticut... New Haven County in southern Connecticut... Hudson County in northeastern New Jersey... Eastern Passaic County in northeastern New Jersey... Union County in northeastern New Jersey... Bergen County in northeastern New Jersey... Essex County in northeastern New Jersey... Queens County in southeastern New York... Richmond County in southeastern New York... Bronx County in southeastern New York... Kings County in southeastern New York... Rockland County in southeastern New York... Westchester County in southeastern New York... West central Suffolk County in southeastern New York... New York (Manhattan) County in southeastern New York... Northern Nassau County in southeastern New York... * Until 415 PM EST. * At 318 PM EST, a dangerous snow squall was located along a line extending from Tolland to Nanuet to Victory Gardens, moving southeast at 35 mph. HAZARD...Whiteout conditions. Zero visibility in heavy snow and blowing snow. Wind gusts up to 40 mph. SOURCE...Radar indicated. IMPACT...Dangerous life-threatening travel. This snow squall will be near... Caldwell around 335 PM EST. Yonkers and White Plains around 340 PM EST. Orange and East Tremont around 345 PM EST. New Rochelle and Port Chester around 350 PM EST. Newark and Elizabeth around 355 PM EST. Jersey City and Glen Cove around 400 PM EST. Bayonne and Todt Hill around 405 PM EST. Oyster Bay and Norwich around 410 PM EST. Garden City and Westbury around 415 PM EST. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Consider avoiding or delaying travel until the snow squall passes your location. If you must travel, use extra caution and allow extra time. Rapid changes in visibility and slick road conditions may lead to accidents. Reduce your speed and turn on headlights! During snow squalls, the visibility may suddenly drop to near zero in whiteout conditions. Slow Down! Rapid changes in visibility and road conditions are expected with this dangerous snow squall. Be alert for sudden whiteout conditions. &&

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Nice hit for some locales in NMI. Even by their stds this was a robust CF.  I used to work with a guy from there:

 

 

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI
1152 AM EST WED DEC 18 2019

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0700 AM HEAVY SNOW 3 N VANDERBILT 45.19N 84.67W
12/18/2019 E12.0 INCH OTSEGO MI PUBLIC

24 HOUR SNOW FALL ENDING AT 700 AM.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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