December 2023 Weather in the PNW

[RentonHill]

22 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

It depends what areas and neighborhoods you're at. For some reason outages happened most frequently in Washington County (but the outages themselves would be short lived). They had underground lines.

Still can happen on a frequent level in very rural neighborhoods, grandma's place in the Falcon Heights area of Klamath Falls would get one on a near monthly basis but my house in downtown K-Falls would only once a year have an outage.. it also took stronger winds to knock it out compared to Hillsboro which was another curious observation. HIO was a more populated area. lol

Its more interesting the more i think about it. I wonder if there was a timing element to it as well...west coast infrastructure came later and was thus more robust and didn't need to be replaced until it absolutely had to, while east coast infra has already completed a full replacement cycle many decades earlier either for safety or damage. Or @Phil just lives in a tiny suburban bubble and there's the same exact power situations in the same type of semi-rural areas we have over here. Whatever. Guess I should do some work. 

[Front Ranger]

3 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

Its more interesting the more i think about it. I wonder if there was a timing element to it as well...west coast infrastructure came later and was thus more robust and didn't need to be replaced until it absolutely had to, while east coast infra has already completed a full replacement cycle many decades earlier either for safety or damage. Or @Phil just lives in a tiny suburban bubble and there's the same exact power situations in the same type of semi-rural areas we have over here. Whatever. Guess I should do some work. 

The type of trees in the PNW (especially further north) are a big part of it. Massive firs losing limbs or even falling is going to do a lot more damage.

[SnowWillarrive]

1 hour ago, RentonHill said:

It’s really just Randy who seems to live in the 1800s in terms of power failures

Snohomish and Skagit County have quite a bit more power outages than King. The infrastructure is not as good. 

[the_convergence_zone]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Why is PNW power infrastructure so gawdawful?

Our trees have some of the fastest growth rates in the entire world, so even if you trim them they grow right back. And if you cut the trees down entirely, then the alders and bigleaf maples sprout up like weeds and those species will drop branches if you look at them funny.

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

12z suite a bit uninspiring so far. 

[TacomaWx]

I have only lost power a couple times from windstorms here in Tacoma. Think the last time there was an outage from a wind event was like 2014 or 2015. Never happens here really. 
 

[TacomaWx]

Got down to 36 this morning. Nice sunrise here in algona. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I’ve lost power too many times to count. Generator was the best investment I ever made. Haven’t had an outage yet this winter. Beautiful morning, but foggy below! 

[BLI snowman]

5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

12z suite a bit uninspiring so far. 

Some fantasyland chili on the Goofus.

Shades of 1987. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

You don't cover your pool in the winter?

No real reason to. 

[SouthHillFrosty]

King 5 has a new weather girl. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

Stayed windy all night, and the temp never dropped below 45. Didn’t get a pic but the sunrise this morning was gorgeous.

Currently partly cloudy, breezy and 47.

[GobBluth]

Gfs throwing a low into Baja is an interesting long range tidbit 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Phil will be right with you and Eric Webb. 

I think that post is addressed more to New England weenies because that would be a great pattern down here! Hybrid Miller-A/southern slider storm track and cold enough for snow.

Like 75% of our biggest snows happened with exactly that pattern.

[Deweydog]

30 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Some fantasyland chili on the Goofus.

Shades of 1987. 

Has New Year’s 2016 feel to it with a meandering cold continental vort doing meandering things. 

[Phil]

10 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

King 5 has a new weather girl. 

you mean meteorologist?

[Cascadia_Wx]

8 minutes ago, GobBluth said:

Gfs throwing a low into Baja is an interesting long range tidbit 

Check out that high over western Iran hour 312

[Phil]

Both the GFS and Canadian have caved to the Euro/EPS w/rt the cutoff low diving offshore. Shocker.

[Snownerd3000]

9 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

King 5 has a new weather girl. 

 

[MossMan]

5 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Has New Year’s 2016 feel to it with a meandering cold continental vort doing meandering things. 

Had massive frost accumulation at the lake house and at our old place, then a dusting of snow at work that first week of January! 

[Snownerd3000]

 

[Phishy Wx]

24 minutes ago, Phil said:

you mean meteorologist?

over here in Spokane they call them 'Forecasters' they for the most part aren't even Mets.  small markets and all.  I think each major station has one or two staff Mets and the rest are just 'Forecasters' as they call them

[Phishy Wx]

Just now, Snownerd3000 said:

 

dude, read back in the thread.  I posted that like 2 hours ago

[Phishy Wx]

30 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Check out that high over western Iran hour 312

that around the same time there's a big snow forecasted for Bulgaria

[MossMan]

4 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

dude, read back in the thread.  I posted that like 2 hours ago

Anything that favors the west coast I’m good with being reposted 100 times or more! 

[SouthHillFrosty]

10 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

over here in Spokane they call them 'Forecasters' they for the most part aren't even Mets.  small markets and all.  I think each major station has one or two staff Mets and the rest are just 'Forecasters' as they call them

I just call them weather guys/girls..... . You say meteorologist and ppl think you talk about comets/asteroids lol.  Before I switched from atmospheric science to comp sci, my ex girl use to say I wanted to an astronaut lol.

Edited December 13, 2023 by SouthHillFrosty

[RentonHill]

2 hours ago, RentonHill said:

I bet it and the euro trend it back a little bit towards us slowly each run going forward but never put it all the way back. 

What an idiot!!

[Cascadia_Wx]

5 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

that around the same time there's a big snow forecasted for Bulgaria

Decent teleconnections there.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

26 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

 

This is actually super exciting. 

[Doinko]

2 hours ago, Timmy Supercell said:

It depends what areas and neighborhoods you're at. For some reason outages happened most frequently in Washington County (but the outages themselves would be short lived). They had underground lines.

Still can happen on a frequent level in very rural neighborhoods, grandma's place in the Falcon Heights area of Klamath Falls would get one on a near monthly basis but my house in downtown K-Falls would only once a year have an outage.. it also took stronger winds to knock it out compared to Hillsboro which was another curious observation. HIO was a more populated area. lol

Hasn't been bad here from my experience. Even in Feb 2021 we only briefly lost power

[Cascadia_Wx]

PDX already up to 53. Today should put up a pretty hefty positive departure there, especially with the incredibly mild low of 48.

[TT-SEA]

Gorgeous day.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Still overcast here. Kept things above freezing overnight. Currently 42.4˚F after a min of 33.1.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Looks like we got down to 37F. One of the nicest nights of the month so far and only 42F right now.

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF was a great run for CA.

[westcoastexpat]

ECMWF weeklies and MJO forecast certainly picking up at a chance for slightly negative temperature anomalies sometime in first two weeks in January for the West 

[Snownerd3000]

1 hour ago, Phishy Wx said:

dude, read back in the thread.  I posted that like 2 hours ago

[Snownerd3000]

@Phishy Wx you know I'm going to have to periodically repost shite just to mess with you now, right?

[Phishy Wx]

4 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

@Phishy Wx you know I'm going to have to periodically repost shite just to mess with you now, right?

[TT-SEA]

The 12Z EPS looks like the ECMWF... dry north and wet south over the next 15 days.