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PNW February 2023 Weather Discussion - Meteorological winter finale


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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Here is a comparison between the 12Z and 18Z runs to exclude snow that fell today.   This is 7 p.m. tonight though 7 p.m. tomorrow.

12Z on top and 18Z on the bottom.

 

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This is... fairly good for PDX. I'm not confident or really buying it but it could bode well for the hills.

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

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3 minutes ago, RCola said:

It's not our year.

 

I hope you get something, but if you don't, you won't be alone. I'll more than likely be skunked right there with you alongside all the other downtown Seattle posters.

Feeling fortunate to live in the Lake City neighborhood. Only a quarter inch shy of average. I feel like we'll meet/surpass that tonight.

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Here is a comparison between the 12Z and 18Z runs to exclude snow that fell today.   This is 7 p.m. tonight though 7 p.m. tomorrow.

12Z on top and 18Z on the bottom.

 

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Euro shows a decent band of snow over PDX. GRAF shows it too. Would be pretty nice, those two models nailed the Wednesday event last week. Snowpack here is about gone besides for patches of snow from that storm

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2 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

What is your biggest year for total snow? mine is 2008 at 56 inches.

2011-12 we had 98.5". Last winter we had 52.6" which is 3rd most since I have lived here, behind 63.5" in 2018-19. Our worst year was 14-15' when we only had 3.5". 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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8 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Another good event here.

Nothing new there.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Very possibly the last chance for the South / Central Sound area to get a really decent snowfall this winter and it looks to be slipping away.  Serious bummer.

The winter has been ok here, but I was sure looking for something other than another small snowfall.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I just mentioned, i don't believe the light totals shown in your area.

There is certainly a chance it could still work out well, but this new low track is worrisome.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

Very possibly the last chance for the South / Central Sound area to get a really decent snowfall this winter and it looks to be slipping away.  Serious bummer.

The winter has been ok here, but I was sure looking for something other than another small snowfall.

You know how unpredictable these are. This could really be good for much of the area. 

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6 minutes ago, lowlandsnow said:

Cliff Mass is relatively positive

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Yeah he seems pretty optimistic with SEA getting about 2”. He even said Portland should see about 1.5”.

2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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Current snow situation here... about 1 inch in most places maybe 2 inches in the shaded areas.    Getting a little snow every night helps keep some on the ground. Giving @SilverFallsAndrew a run for his money!   Let's see how the same view looks tomorrow.

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27 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Very possibly the last chance for the South / Central Sound area to get a really decent snowfall this winter and it looks to be slipping away.  Serious bummer.

The winter has been ok here, but I was sure looking for something other than another small snowfall.

So disappointing, especially with the current pattern and so much potential. Would’ve been nice to have at least one widespread event. 

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58 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

18Z ECMWF... definitely a shift north and warmer for the Seattle area after a band of snow in the early morning.

Snow through tomorrow evening and high temps tomorrow.

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I've been keeping a running talley of the number of times Tim has said warmer in the last three days. He's up to 69.

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35 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Euro shows a decent band of snow over PDX. GRAF shows it too. Would be pretty nice, those two models nailed the Wednesday event last week. Snowpack here is about gone besides for patches of snow from that storm

Looks like a fair amount of phantom snow. I'm sure there will be plenty of snow in the air from this but unlikely to stick in a very widespread fashion except for places with some elevation IMO. 

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9 minutes ago, Perturbed Member said:

It shows 5-6 inches near the River by Troutdale, Washougal and Camas. I'm pretty skeptical but that would be incredible if it verified.  

I haven’t been following the situation overnight tonight too closely so that really surprised me. And it is the Euro.

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19 minutes ago, Weiner Warrior said:

I've been keeping a running talley of the number of times Tim has said warmer in the last three days. He's up to 69.

So I did a search on my posts and that word... actual count is 9 times in the last week.    Not bad for someone comparing model runs all day long.  And I think some of those included were actually "not warmer".  You might just have an aversion that word.    😀

I also said "more snow" more times than "less snow" in the last week.

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