December 2018 Weather in the Pacific Northwest

[SilverFallsAndrew]

For the record. I haven't completely given up on this winter yet...

[Requiem]

For the record. I haven't completely given up on this winter yet...

 

People on the California Blog seem to have faith that there will be intense ridging over the NW, letting storms in their way. I'm not sure what to make of their predictions.

[ShawniganLake]

At least this winter has already featured a big windstorm for the region (not the WHOLE region - that's super rare). Including BC especially, it was pretty major. Don't think 1991-92 had managed that.

 

Doesn't do anything for snow lovers, but at least from an interesting weather perspective it has that so far.

And props to the hydro workers up here. I passed two crews working hard on my way home last night. 930pm on Christmas night.

[Timmy]

For the record. I haven't completely given up on this winter yet...

haven’t you been comparing to 91-92?

[Phil]

I am trying to but its hard with the guy. All that knowledge and time invested in forecasting and he is still highly inaccurate. I would be moody as well.

You’re trying, alright.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

haven’t you been comparing to 91-92?

Well to this point we are still at that status in the s valley. With the flakes falling at Andrew’s place that probly already puts his location as better than 91-92. S valley as well as areas close to Salem haven’t had anything interesting at all to discuss from the cold season thus far other than 12 straight Dec days above 50 here.

[GHweatherChris]

Wow, got caught up on here, looks like someone got their feelers hurt, boo effin hoo, smh!!

[Requiem]

Wow, got caught up on here, looks like someone got their feelers hurt, boo effin hoo, smh!!

 

My feelers have been very hurt by the GFS lately.

[Bryant]

F*ck it... sticking with the Farmers Almanac from now on

[Phil]

[Bryant]

Is this a recurring thing with you two? Live and let live, I say. Predictions harm no one as long as you're wary that they are just that- predictions.

I know you're new, but you've been here long enough to know this is just what happens, especially when weather is boring. Yes, I'm guilty of contributing to the BS as well

[High Desert Mat!]

I know you're new, but you've been here long enough to know this is just what happens, especially when weather is boring. Yes, I'm guilty of contributing to the BS as well

I'm guilty too. Boring weather does it every time.

[Requiem]

I know you're new, but you've been here long enough to know this is just what happens, especially when weather is boring. Yes, I'm guilty of contributing to the BS as well

 

Oh trust me, there are a lot of things I'd like to complain about right now about the weather. But I'll refrain for now

[High Desert Mat!]

Phil and Dome need to go skinny dip together, that way they'll know who the bigger "man" is.

[Jesse]

haven’t you been comparing to 91-92?

That’s pessimistic Andrew. He only posts on Tuesdays, Thursdays and every other weekend.

[ShawniganLake]

[Jesse]

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Maybe stormier/more active as opposed to ridging.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

haven’t you been comparing to 91-92?

 

To this point for sure. If we don't break out of what we've been seeing in a significant way we will easily have a winter that disastrous. But it doesn't mean I have given up hope we will see a meaningful pattern change. 

[Guest Dome Buster]

Phil and Dome need to go skinny dip together, that way they'll know who the bigger "man" is.

When your dad is Dave its hard to win that one. Lol.

[BLI snowman]

At least this winter has already featured a big windstorm for the region (not the WHOLE region - that's super rare). Including BC especially, it was pretty major. Don't think 1991-92 had managed that.

 

Doesn't do anything for snow lovers, but at least from an interesting weather perspective it has that so far.

 

November 1991 had a reasonably significant wind event for the Puget Sound and places in B.C.

 

https://english.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTCM/1991/11/16/DailyHistory.html

https://english.wunderground.com/history/airport/CYXX/1991/11/17/DailyHistory.html

[BLI snowman]

For the record. I haven't completely given up on this winter yet...

 

I have.

 

Ninos that start this badly just don't end up being good here. Ever. No hope in sight, either. We may very well all see flakes in the air at some point but anything more seems incredibly unlikely.

[Requiem]

November 1991 had a reasonably significant wind event for the Puget Sound and places in B.C.

 

https://english.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTCM/1991/11/16/DailyHistory.html

https://english.wunderground.com/history/airport/CYXX/1991/11/17/DailyHistory.html

 

That makes me jealous.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Well to this point we are still at that status in the s valley. With the flakes falling at Andrew’s place that probly already puts his location as better than 91-92. S valley as well as areas close to Salem haven’t had anything interesting at all to discuss from the cold season thus far other than 12 straight Dec days above 50 here.

 

I don't know that some flakes falling and a dusting around the first of this month puts me ahead of 91-92 yet. It does not appear to have snowed at Silver Falls that winter, but their snow data is spotty and being 300' higher than the park it is possible my location did have some snow in 91-92'. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I have.

 

Ninos that start this badly just don't end up being good here. Ever. No hope in sight, either. We may very well all see flakes in the air at some point but anything more seems incredibly unlikely.

 

Of course some on here are trying to claim this will not end up a Nino.

 

1) It will/Is

2) I don't know why they keep insisting on this? So they can keep unrealistic hopes for more active weather alive? 

 

I don't really understand it. This ENSO event will obviously meet the Nino standard and has behaved pretty much exactly like a classic dud PNW Nino winter.

[BLI snowman]

Of course some on here are trying to claim this will not end up a Nino.

 

1) It will/Is

2) I don't know why they keep insisting on this? So they can keep unrealistic hopes for more active weather alive? 

 

I don't really understand it. This ENSO event will obviously meet the Nino standard and has behaved pretty much exactly like a classic dud PNW Nino winter.

 

The OND number for the ONI will be close to +1.0. For all intents and purposes, that's a high-end weak Nino. Those haven't been too kind to us so far in this century (2004-05, 2014-15).

[Front Ranger]

November 1991 had a reasonably significant wind event for the Puget Sound and places in B.C.

 

https://english.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTCM/1991/11/16/DailyHistory.html

https://english.wunderground.com/history/airport/CYXX/1991/11/17/DailyHistory.html

 

Looks like that was a super-quick hitter. Really only one hour of significant gusts. 

[Front Ranger]

The government shitdown is showing up for me on some NOAA pages: https://governmentshutdown.noaa.gov/

[Requiem]

The government shitdown is showing up for me on some NOAA pages: https://governmentshutdown.noaa.gov/

 

Please tell me that was intentional.

[Front Ranger]

I have.

 

Ninos that start this badly just don't end up being good here. Ever. No hope in sight, either. We may very well all see flakes in the air at some point but anything more seems incredibly unlikely.

 

This is eerily reminiscent of some posts you made in the fall of 2008...might be just enough for that much-needed atmospheric shake up!

[Front Ranger]

18z descends into mid range troughing a touch faster than 12z.

[Deweydog]

18z!

[seattleweatherguy]

Any good signs. There is no reason to panic until late feb

[MossMan]

At the lake house Checking on things, 39 and cloudy. Neighbor behind us lost a very large Fir tree, just missed their house apparently.

[Phil]

I have.

 

Ninos that start this badly just don't end up being good here. Ever. No hope in sight, either. We may very well all see flakes in the air at some point but anything more seems incredibly unlikely.

1994/95?

[ShawniganLake]

1994/95?

There was arctic air in early December that year.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

There was arctic air in early December that year.

 

We didn't have arctic air really down here, but had a nice 3" overrunning event in the Salem area early in that month. 

[TT-SEA]

Well... the drive through Vancouver was seriously disappointing. Almost zero visibility in heavy drizzle and fog. Did show up well on radar either. It was fine until we crossed the border and then better after Horseshoe Bay. Was hoping my kids could see downtown but we could not see past the shoulder of the road!

[Esquimalt]

What about ‘89-‘90? Absolutely nothing in Nov/Dec but a nice snow event late in January and of course some great febuary cold.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

What about ‘89-‘90? Absolutely nothing in Nov/Dec but a nice snow event late in January and of course some great febuary cold.

 

Nina. 

[BLI snowman]

1994/95?

Cool November which led into a decent event in early December.