February 2019 Weather Observations and Discussion Part 2

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Some departures today.

 

PDX -8  (44/28)

SLE -6   (46/27)

EUG -5  (45/30)

[MossMan]

A couple more pics from around the yard this afternoon.

[wx_statman]

Any idea what the 850mb temps were during March 1989?

 

It would be nice to get a good idea of how cold it was to make that happen.

 

-11.5 over Quillayute and -9.3 over Salem. Pretty awesome airmass for March.

[Phil]

Oh my...

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Oh my...

 

 

Funny I didn't see Tim post this...

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

Oh my...

 

 

 

Appears to be colder than last nights run.

 

[wx_statman]

Cold this morning east of the Cascades! -10 in Kalispell, MT and -5 in Deer Park. Getting into pretty impressive territory for west of the continental divide, so late in the winter. 

[wx_statman]

Speaking of Deer Park, they hit -14 on Feb. 21st last year. That's really impressive. Too bad the airport only has records back to 1998, but this was easily their coldest temperature so late in the winter. Beat out -11 on 2/26/2011. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Cold this morning east of the Cascades! -10 in Kalispell, MT and -5 in Deer Park. Getting into pretty impressive territory for west of the continental divide, so late in the winter. 

 

Given how much arctic air has been pouring into the Northern Plains and persistent west coast troughing, does it surprised you we haven't managed to have a regional arctic outbreak?

[wx_statman]

Given how much arctic air has been pouring into the Northern Plains and persistent west coast troughing, does it surprised you we haven't managed to have a regional arctic outbreak?

 

A little, I guess. I'm really never surprised when we don't have a regional Arctic outbreak. 

[Geos]

A couple more pics from around the yard this afternoon.

 

I was up in your areas today and your the area along the county line definitely had more snow than Stanwood itself - actually they only have piles now. Same goes for Mt. Vernon. Holding onto the snow cover here still. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Pendleton has had 14 sub-freezing highs so far this month and just missed another by 1 degree today...Given their average high for today's date is 47 that is pretty impressive.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

A little, I guess. I'm really never surprised when we don't have a regional Arctic outbreak. 

 

I was just thinking about it today and it just seemed like this month and early January 2017 lined up really well for one and we just couldn't get it done...

[wx_statman]

I was just thinking about it today and it just seemed like this month and early January 2017 lined up really well for one and we just couldn't get it done...

 

It's true that the Portland area especially really whiffed in both of those setups. Granted 850's never got too cold in either (which explains the whiffing), but many other areas across the region had super impressive cold readings. Eastern OR in early Jan. 2017, Puget Sound this month....

[SilverFallsAndrew]

It's true that the Portland area especially really whiffed in both of those setups. Granted 850's never got too cold in either (which explains the whiffing), but many other areas across the region had super impressive cold readings. Eastern OR in early Jan. 2017, Puget Sound this month....

 

Both this month and January 2017 will/ended up as the coldest of their respective months in decades, but they both left a lot on the table. Most people forget about the potential with that first week of January 2017 because of what happened a few days later. But it seemed like we had a very favorable 500mb pattern and weren't quite able to put it all together. 

 

It is also interesting seeing the kind of months Eastern Oregon put together in December 2016 and January 2017 along with what is going on in the Columbia Basin and Spokane area this month (And to a lesser extent Puget Sound). Shows we still can put together a true throwback type of month. The details just didn't work out quite right PDX south this month. Still going to end up with some very impressive monthly averages and should be the coldest February most places since 1989 or at worst 1993 in Western Oregon. 

[Timmy Supercell]

Curious that I haven't seen a whole lot of fog this winter. Snow is just about normal for southern Oregon right now but I haven't seen more than just a few mornings that were legitimately foggy, and by local standards.

[ShawniganLake]

We still have around 10" on the ground here. Melting has slowed since the snow compacted and froze.

[ShawniganLake]

Nice to see the ICON spin up the low pressure off Vancouver island later in the run. Keeps the undercutting idea on the table.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Both this month and January 2017 will/ended up as the coldest of their respective months in decades, but they both left a lot on the table. Most people forget about the potential with that first week of January 2017 because of what happened a few days later. But it seemed like we had a very favorable 500mb pattern and weren't quite able to put it all together.

 

It is also interesting seeing the kind of months Eastern Oregon put together in December 2016 and January 2017 along with what is going on in the Columbia Basin and Spokane area this month (And to a lesser extent Puget Sound). Shows we still can put together a true throwback type of month. The details just didn't work out quite right PDX south this month. Still going to end up with some very impressive monthly averages and should be the coldest February most places since 1989 or at worst 1993 in Western Oregon.

I don’t see the Willamette Valley ever having a significant event of the magnitude that W Wash experienced again in our lifetimes. Too warm and too far south now. Maybe some 1”-2” whimpers here and there but we are pretty much done in that dept. Feb 2014 was nothing close to what the WV is capable of and it feels like forever ago. Central and S valley are esp likely to go through a very long stretch without much.

[Deweydog]

Both this month and January 2017 will/ended up as the coldest of their respective months in decades, but they both left a lot on the table. Most people forget about the potential with that first week of January 2017 because of what happened a few days later. But it seemed like we had a very favorable 500mb pattern and weren't quite able to put it all together.

 

It is also interesting seeing the kind of months Eastern Oregon put together in December 2016 and January 2017 along with what is going on in the Columbia Basin and Spokane area this month (And to a lesser extent Puget Sound). Shows we still can put together a true throwback type of month. The details just didn't work out quite right PDX south this month. Still going to end up with some very impressive monthly averages and should be the coldest February most places since 1989 or at worst 1993 in Western Oregon.

In both cases (1-17, 2-19) it was some manner of split flow which inhibited the pattern from being as cherry as possible. Ironically, the splitting this time around was a huge catalyst for the PS doing so well with snowfall. Kind of a January 2005 displaced a bit south.

[Deweydog]

I don’t see the Willamette Valley ever having a significant event of the magnitude that W Wash experienced again in our lifetimes. Too warm and too far south now. Maybe some 1”-2” whimpers here and there but we are pretty much done in that dept. Feb 2014 was nothing close to what the WV is capable of and it feels like forever ago. Central and S valley are esp likely to go through a very long stretch without much.

This.

 

Although that 2” is probably stretching it.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

In both cases (1-17, 2-19) it was some manner of split flow which inhibited the pattern from being as cherry as possible. Ironically, the splitting this time around was a huge catalyst for the PS doing so well with snowfall. Kind of a January 2005 displaced a bit south.

 

Makes sense.

[Timmy Supercell]

The first week of January 2017 was a week likely not seen in 20-25 years in Klamath Falls. The 5th coldest temperature was also recorded at KLMT that week.

[kokaneekidz]

Arlington and Bremerton reporting mixed precipitation presently.

[TT-SEA]

12Z EPS 10-15 day mean... normal temps.

 

[TT-SEA]

Funny I didn't see Tim post this...

Funny... I have not posted enough fuccking cold and snow maps in the last month? Am I allowed to post anything else?

 

You better post every warm weather map for us from now until October or I will troll your dumba×s nonstop!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Funny... I have not posted enough fuccking cold and snow maps in the last month? Am I allowed to post anything else?

 

You better post every warm weather map for us from now until October or I will troll your dumba×s nonstop!

 

Sunburned?

[FroYoBro]

Funny... I have not posted enough fuccking cold and snow maps in the last month? Am I allowed to post anything else?

 

You better post every warm weather map for us from now until October or I will troll your dumba×s nonstop!

Hawaii must be a stressful place.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Saturday looks a lot like this past Saturday on the 00z GFS. A bit cooler overall. Looks like maybe a C-zone up north of Seattle on Friday night. 

 

Wednesday morning still looks good for 2-4" here. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like the GFS is going to undercut...

[Deweydog]

Sunburns and iceburns can be very similar.

[TT-SEA]

Sunburned?

Having an awesome time!

 

Have to play tough with Phil to keep up. He respects a fighter.

[Deweydog]

Saturday looks a lot like this past Saturday on the 00z GFS. A bit cooler overall. Looks like maybe a C-zone up north of Seattle on Friday night.

 

Wednesday morning still looks good for 2-4" here.

Nice!!!

[Perturbed Member]

I don’t see the Willamette Valley ever having a significant event of the magnitude that W Wash experienced again in our lifetimes. Too warm and too far south now. Maybe some 1”-2” whimpers here and there but we are pretty much done in that dept. Feb 2014 was nothing close to what the WV is capable of and it feels like forever ago. Central and S valley are esp likely to go through a very long stretch without much.

 

Agreed, this region is no longer suitable for human habitation. Mandatory evacuations should be considered. 

[Christensen87]

00z GFS now bringing even COLDER air late next week. It never ends!

[HighlandExperience]

00z GFS now bringing even COLDER air late next week. It never ends!

It would be something special if Sea Tac can get another big snowfall before February ends.

[wx_statman]

Both this month and January 2017 will/ended up as the coldest of their respective months in decades, but they both left a lot on the table. Most people forget about the potential with that first week of January 2017 because of what happened a few days later. But it seemed like we had a very favorable 500mb pattern and weren't quite able to put it all together. 

 

It is also interesting seeing the kind of months Eastern Oregon put together in December 2016 and January 2017 along with what is going on in the Columbia Basin and Spokane area this month (And to a lesser extent Puget Sound). Shows we still can put together a true throwback type of month. The details just didn't work out quite right PDX south this month. Still going to end up with some very impressive monthly averages and should be the coldest February most places since 1989 or at worst 1993 in Western Oregon. 

 

Well put.

 

The irony of January 2017 is that it wasn't a very impressive month for upper level temps on the west side. It was a great demonstration of the full potential of the gorge here in Portland. Salem never fell to -10 at 850mb that entire month - something it managed to do in both Dec. 2016 and Feb. 2018.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Love the trend of keeping the cold. Hopefully it continues on into spring.

[wx_statman]

I don’t see the Willamette Valley ever having a significant event of the magnitude that W Wash experienced again in our lifetimes. Too warm and too far south now. Maybe some 1”-2” whimpers here and there but we are pretty much done in that dept. Feb 2014 was nothing close to what the WV is capable of and it feels like forever ago. Central and S valley are esp likely to go through a very long stretch without much.

 

Dec 2013 was about as good in Eugene as anything in the 19th century. 7" of snow and -10 lows would have blown people's socks off 150 years ago, too. 

[Omegaraptor]

I don’t see the Willamette Valley ever having a significant event of the magnitude that W Wash experienced again in our lifetimes. Too warm and too far south now. Maybe some 1”-2” whimpers here and there but we are pretty much done in that dept. Feb 2014 was nothing close to what the WV is capable of and it feels like forever ago. Central and S valley are esp likely to go through a very long stretch without much.

 

Yup, that's it, it's over. Rename the Willamette Valley to the "Northern Central Valley" now.

 

Oh wait no, Las Vegas is getting more snow than Washington County.

 

It's honestly hard to believe that people think it rains all the time here.