Guest LaPineLurker Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 They sell those in Culver?You guys really should come up with some new material. I will pray for some wind for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 The idea that the global temperature anomaly can vary in excess of 1.5C-2C within an 18 month span thanks to ENSO (see the 1998-2000 swing) but that somehow these swings in heat flow/budgeting don’t happen over longer intervals via structurally analogous conduits is just bats**t stupid. It’s the willful defiance of logic and reality.I am pretty sure no one is denying there are a lot of factors that drive a warming/cooling climate. One of them being very human-driven. Also, can you reference sources when you say things like 'our avg temperature anomoly increased 1.5 degrees in 18 months'? Cause from what I can tell, that is simply not true. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentWOC/images/decadaltemp/annual_temperature_anomalies_2014.png I agree with Andrew....it would be nice if there were a few global negative anomolies in the upcoming years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Dense fog has now rolled in. Down to 47. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Good lord. Seattle would have played the 9ers much tougher. Anyway back to the weather...It’s boring! And will be for the rest of the month! Yahoo! Currently 53 and cloudy. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Shared by our County Museum on facebook, this little story in January 1950. "SHEEP DRIVE ON CALIFORNIA AVENUE, January 1950 –Klamath County Museum’s Photo of the Week for Jan. 19, 2020, shows a band of sheep being driven along a snowy section of California Avenue 70 years ago.-This image is a clipping from the Jan. 18, 1950, Herald and News. The youth herding the sheep is Pat Fitzgerald, son of prominent sheep producer Daniel Fitzgerald. The elder Fitzgerald was an Irish immigrant who established a large ranch along Highway 66, just west of the Weyerhaeuser lumber mill.-The family grazed sheep on pasture in the Pelican City area, and drove the animals through town to and from the main ranch southwest of town. 2 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 21 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 56/46 for EUG. Close to a double-digit positive temp departure. 2 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadbro Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 What an extremely boring/lame winter... 2 Quote https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/efcb24c8a999dceddfaba7469ce5bd2f my personal weather station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 What an extremely boring/lame winter...Yup, worst here since 15-16. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Until February! Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 21 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 What an extremely boring/lame winter...At least you saw it coming when no one else did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 What an extremely boring/lame winter... Seems like we can't get anything interesting weather wise, not even a windstorm. Sure, we got lots of mountain snow last week but the Cascades are quite literally known for getting massive amounts of snow. Two of the snowiest places ON EARTH, Mt Rainier and Mt Baker, are in the Cascades, and even Crater Lake in southern Oregon still gets 500" a year on average. The fact that "the mountains are getting nailed" is the best thing we can say here in Oregon is kind of sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Seems like we can't get anything interesting weather wise, not even a windstorm. Sure, we got lots of mountain snow last week but the Cascades are quite literally known for getting massive amounts of snow. Two of the snowiest places ON EARTH, Mt Rainier and Mt Baker, are in the Cascades, and even Crater Lake in southern Oregon still gets 500" a year on average. The fact that "the mountains are getting nailed" is the best thing we can say here in Oregon is kind of sad. At least we have that though! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadbro Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 At least you saw it coming when no one else did.Wow, weird. I didn't even know that I saw it coming. The more you know. Quote https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/efcb24c8a999dceddfaba7469ce5bd2f my personal weather station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Beautiful 52 degree January evening. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I am pretty sure no one is denying there are a lot of factors that drive a warming/cooling climate. One of them being very human-driven. Also, can you reference sources when you say things like 'our avg temperature anomoly increased 1.5 degrees in 18 months'? Cause from what I can tell, that is simply not true. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentWOC/images/decadaltemp/annual_temperature_anomalies_2014.png I agree with Andrew....it would be nice if there were a few global negative anomolies in the upcoming years.That’s a yearly average derived from surface stations and buoys only. I’m referring to lower-tropospheric temperature anomalies derived from satellite microwave radiometers, which measure a substantially larger portion of the atmosphere (in theory, much more ideal for measuring climate change). Note the variability from year to year..this is a result of changes to atmosphere-ocean circulation (IE: ENSO in the short term). These expressions, however, are not confined to this sub-decadal frequency. They of course can operate on much longer timescales as well. http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2019_v6.jpg Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Seems like we can't get anything interesting weather wise, not even a windstorm. Sure, we got lots of mountain snow last week but the Cascades are quite literally known for getting massive amounts of snow. Two of the snowiest places ON EARTH, Mt Rainier and Mt Baker, are in the Cascades, and even Crater Lake in southern Oregon still gets 500" a year on average. The fact that "the mountains are getting nailed" is the best thing we can say here in Oregon is kind of sad. What's really sad is that if they weren't you would probably have an equally long rant complaining about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hit 50 here with some east winds. First 50+ high since 1/7. Gorgeous winter day. We spent the afternoon in Oxbow park on the Sandy River. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Why do you seem like you always have a problem with Omegaraptor?Never have been a fan of posters who complain about absolutely every type of weather that is happening, no matter what it is. Just a constant parade of negativity. Old timers will remember that Anthony C was this way too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Never have been a fan of posters who complain about absolutely every type of weather that is happening, no matter what it is. Just a constant parade of negativity. Old timers will remember that Anthony C was this way too. Yeah, I've noticed you don't particularly enjoy his posting tendencies haha Then again I get that way too (but my weather tastes seem a bit more...manageable). 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I grew up expecting periods of 2-3 years without sticking snow in the Portland Metro (went most of my childhood snowless!) both in Bethany and Hillsboro areas. These last 4 years you guys have had are a lot better than my young years. It really wouldn't surprise anyone if 2020 didn't feature any major snow events in PDX. Obviously the cascades annually expect snow (duh), but saying things like 04-05 analog which featured pretty terrible conditions at places that always see snow. It was Spring above 5000 feet in 2005. 2020 is nothing like that so far. If anything was lacking abnormally it's windstorms a lot more than snow. This area hasn't had a legit one in several years. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 21 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Never have been a fan of posters who complain about absolutely every type of weather that is happening, no matter what it is. Just a constant parade of negativity. Old timers will remember that Anthony C was this way too. I agree to a certain extent, but to be fair, it’s pretty easy to be pissed with such a boring climate if you’re stuck living here because of your parents or your work. I try to make the best of it but sometimes it can be hard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 February 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I agree to a certain extent, but to be fair, it’s pretty easy to be pissed with such a boring climate if you’re stuck living here because of your parents or your work. I try to make the best of it but sometimes it can be hardSure. But I know he loves skiing and other winter sports because he usually complains when the mountains are doing badly for snow. Just like I do. So when we finally get it I don’t see the point of downplaying it unless you are just trying to make yourself unhappy. Generally having lots of snow close by in the cold season is a big perk of our climate IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I agree to a certain extent, but to be fair, it’s pretty easy to be pissed with such a boring climate if you’re stuck living here because of your parents or your work. I try to make the best of it but sometimes it can be hardIf you hate it that much come up with a plan stick to it and make it happen. All depends how bad you want it. 3 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Forum will be up and down throughout the night. Working on some stuff that I should hopefully get out there after a long while of talking about it.I wasn’t able to pull it up earlier, so that makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Forum will be up and down throughout the night. Working on some stuff that I should hopefully get out there after a long while of talking about it. thanks for the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I wasn’t able to pull it up earlier, so that makes sense. isitdownrightnow.com told me it was down too. I guess hold off typing gigantic analysis (or complaining) posts for a few hours. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 21 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 If you hate it that much come up with a plan stick to it and make it happen. All depends how bad you want it.I have a plan but it's going to have to wait 3 more winters. I'm hoping for that long series of Ninas to save my soul. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I have a plan but it's going to have to wait 3 more winters. I'm hoping for that long series of Ninas to save my soul.3 years will go fast, I've been waiting for 20 years. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Sure. But I know he loves skiing and other winter sports because he usually complains when the mountains are doing badly for snow. Just like I do. So when we finally get it I don’t see the point of downplaying it unless you are just trying to make yourself unhappy. Generally having lots of snow close by in the cold season is a big perk of our climate IMO It really was great having such a big dump of snow in the mountains (and it was cold, powdery snow as well). Already puts this winter ahead of the notorious dumpster fires we've had in the past. It was just really disappointing to have the models appear so good for snow in the lowlands and then fall apart. As someone said earlier the variability of this winter (rather than being stuck in the same pattern for weeks on end) is encouraging. It's not over till it's over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 It really was great having such a big dump of snow in the mountains (and it was cold, powdery snow as well). Already puts this winter ahead of the notorious dumpster fires we've had in the past. It was just really disappointing to have the models appear so good for snow in the lowlands and then fall apart. As someone said earlier the variability of this winter (rather than being stuck in the same pattern for weeks on end) is encouraging. It's not over till it's over. I must have missed that post. But that's a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 00Z looks wet. 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Never have been a fan of posters who complain about absolutely every type of weather that is happening, no matter what it is. Just a constant parade of negativity. Old timers will remember that Anthony C was this way too. What about posters that complain about other posters’ preferences and posting style(s)? Do they suck too? 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 My dirty deck snow is dying. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 What about posters that complain about other posters’ preferences and posting style(s)? Do they suck too? Yes. But the ones who complain about them essentially obtain god status. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 What are we complaining about? 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Since the new 1991-2020 climactic averages are coming out next year, here's a map of the US and how much temperature change there is with the new averages (with only one year removed): https://twitter.com/Climatologist49/status/1216030340541632517?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Since the new 1991-2020 climactic averages are coming out next year, here's a map of the US and how much temperature change there is with the new averages (with only one year removed): https://twitter.com/Climatologist49/status/1216030340541632517?s=20That screams warm pool/+TNH dominance. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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