January 2024 Weather in the PNW (Part I)

[Deweydog]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

My dad always talks about our pipes freezing in December 1990. 

Pipes at my dad’s shop burst in 1989 after which I specifically remember him saying at least we don’t need to worry about it happening again any time soon. Burst again in 1990. Haven’t burst since, but he’s currently in the process of selling the biz, so it seems like it could be poetic justice ON ROUTE.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Pipes at my dad’s shop burst in 1989 after which I specifically remember him saying at least we don’t need to worry about it happening again any time soon. Burst again in 1990. Haven’t burst since, but he’s currently in the process of selling the biz, so it seems like it could be poetic justice ON ROUTE.

I dont know why but i do not remember the cold in 1989 but i remember 1990 like yesterday. 89 must of been almost no snow here?

[Phil]

10 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

I want to see glaciers advance and towns destroyed 

We need Yellowstone to produce its most explosive eruption ever.

[Phishy Wx]

12 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

I want to see glaciers advance and towns destroyed 

you might want to get cryogenically frozen and come back in 100 million years

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I dont know why but i do not remember the cold in 1989 but i remember 1990 like yesterday. 89 must of been almost no snow here?

Got chilly early in February.

[Sandy rocks]

As a lifelong northwesterner I have seen snow and ice impact each location differently. Seattle is farther north but Portland has the gorge. Sometimes the arctic air doesn't reach Portland, sometimes it comes in backdoor through the gorge. I have to say the freakiest time I ever saw was in January of 1980. For a week it snowed in all areas within 20-25 miles of the gorge. The temperature remained below freezing the entire time. If you went on 26 to Beaverton it was snowing in downtown Portland, on the other side of the tunnel it was raining. I have never seen the like since then.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Man 89 was a beast

[ShawniganLake]

13 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

My dad always talks about our pipes freezing in December 1990. 

My parents have lived in the same house since 82.  ‘90 was the only time they had a pipe freeze. 
 

It’s been so mild this winter I haven’t even bothered shutting off our outside taps yet

[Slushy Inch]

18 minutes ago, Parrot said:

Rooting for the models to show subzero, not for it to actually verify...model watching is weird!

Remember we can’t change the weather. So we may as well enjoy the insanity of extremes. Minus tornadoes, I don’t want to experience that up close 

[ShawniganLake]

Getting dangerously close to 50F right now.  

[sherwoodor]

14 minutes ago, Tanis Leach said:

This with Dec 2021. The only loser out of it happened to be Portland so it got soured. 

 

Sherwood got 7" where I'm at, and my then apartment in Corvallis got about 10" (though the Sherwood one was spread over 4 days and melted out almost every day).

Hey Tanis, 

I didnt realize you were in sherwood, my profile picture is from '21 walking down to Stella Olsen Memorial Park. I dont post much, but I go back with y'all, been on the OG KPTV weather blog since 2010, then the various FB groups, now this place. Nice to see some familiar faces again. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I dont know why but i do not remember the cold in 1989 but i remember 1990 like yesterday. 89 must of been almost no snow here?

Willamette Valley special. Eugene up to Salem had about 6-12" of snow with it. Raging outflow at PDX prevented significant accumulations there. Last time SLE got below 0. 

[Skagit Weather]

47 minutes ago, Eugene-5SW said:

Yeah, he called me "not the brightest bulb of the bunch." I was a bit chapped about that for a while.

Here is the morning of 12/30/21 from 216 hours out on the Euro showing a low of -5º for EUG. Actual low temperature that day: 32º.

I had forgotten the models went quite that extreme in December 2021. Here the low was only 26F on December 30th, but it was 6F on the 27th so at least something verified.

[OysterPrintout]

Ensemble spaghetti charts are still just a total mess after day 7 euro has like 25C swing of potential outcomes. I'd be a bit surprised if 18z GFS caved so much as just has another random dice roll.

[Poulsbo Snowman]

I've been gone for a few minutes.  Anything of interest to track?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, ShawniganLake said:

My parents have lived in the same house since 82.  ‘90 was the only time they had a pipe freeze. 
 

It’s been so mild this winter I haven’t even bothered shutting off our outside taps yet

He has an old farm house that is built on a pretty high foundation, so air really gets under there. He's sealed it off over the past few years, and completely repiped after his pipes burst again in December 2009, so hopefully he wouldn't have the same issue if we experienced a similar event. 

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

50 burger at SLE. 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

56 minutes ago, Eugene-5SW said:

Here is the morning of 12/30/21 from 216 hours out on the Euro showing a low of -5º for EUG. Actual low temperature that day: 32º.

Got down to 11 that morning. The next day my low temp was 0 though, and the prior day my low temp was 3.

[Skagit Weather]

8 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Getting dangerously close to 50F right now.  

Gotta pad the stats, otherwise we could end up with a below average January and that's impossible these days.

[Parrot]

10 minutes ago, Poulsbo Snowman said:

I've been gone for a few minutes.  Anything of interest to track?

Goofus 18z soon

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

Got down to 11 that morning. The next day my low temp was 0 though, and the prior day my low temp was 3.

The coldest we got during that event was 18 I believe. Not stellar, especially with 20" of snow depth to help with radiational cooling. Like with so many cold events, we really struggled to get any clearing until the coldest air had moved out of the region. Our coldest temp of that winter was in late February with what is now a completely forgotten cold snap. 

[Phil]

10 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

Remember we can’t change the weather. So we may as well enjoy the insanity of extremes. Minus tornadoes, I don’t want to experience that up close 

Thing about tornadoes is you have no idea if one will impact you until it’s basically right there. Can’t really say that about any other weather phenomena…and tornadoes are also the most likely to kill you if you encounter one. Worst of the worst.

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Parrot said:

Goofus 18z soon

Don’t look at it. At not until after it has finished running.

You’ll be saner for it.

[SnarkyGoblin]

Cliff's model is not onboard.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

A few pics from December 2021!

[MikeInEverett]

Some people on Twitter are getting really upset for people even talking about some of these crazy runs.. People need to lighten up a bit and have some fun.

[RentonHill]

We're getting new windows installed at the end of the month and they just asked if they could move it up to next Wednesday and Thursday instead.....

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, MillCreekMike said:

Some people on Twitter are getting really upset for people even talking about some of these crazy runs.. People need to lighten up a bit and have some fun.

What are they saying?

[iFred]

1 minute ago, MillCreekMike said:

Some people on Twitter are getting really upset for people even talking about some of these crazy runs.. People need to lighten up a bit and have some fun.

 

Who?

[Cascadia_Wx]

8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The coldest we got during that event was 18 I believe. Not stellar, especially with 20" of snow depth to help with radiational cooling. Like with so many cold events, we really struggled to get any clearing until the coldest air had moved out of the region. Our coldest temp of that winter was in late February with what is now a completely forgotten cold snap. 

I remember it, Andrew.

[TacomaWx]

1 minute ago, MillCreekMike said:

Some people on Twitter are getting really upset for people even talking about some of these crazy runs.. People need to lighten up a bit and have some fun.

Thats what I like about this forum. Theres legit analysis and realistic discussion but we also throw the snow maps around and have fun with it. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

3 minutes ago, MillCreekMike said:

Some people on Twitter are getting really upset for people even talking about some of these crazy runs.. People need to lighten up a bit and have some fun.

if they do not like cold weather then they can move to Florida where they belong with the rest of the zombies.

[High Desert Mat?]

20 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Willamette Valley special. Eugene up to Salem had about 6-12" of snow with it. Raging outflow at PDX prevented significant accumulations there. Last time SLE got below 0. 

Salem didn’t get below 0 during the winter of ‘13-‘14 when Eugene hit -10? That same year Redmond hit -27 twice I believe. Once in Dec and once in Feb. 

[Front Ranger]

17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Willamette Valley special. Eugene up to Salem had about 6-12" of snow with it. Raging outflow at PDX prevented significant accumulations there. Last time SLE got below 0. 

Big-time accumulations for most of the Puget Sound too with the Arctic front. SEA had about 6", OLM got almost a foot.

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

8 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Cliff's model is not onboard.

Based on the GFS.  Wonder what it would look like if it was based on the Euro.

[Cascadia_Wx]

850s on the 12z EPS. I removed precip since so many members go low enough that it was interfering with the pattern.

Interesting to note the great agreement between the operational and control. Also a solid handful of members making it down to at least -15c.

Obviously there’s still a ton of spread, to be expected at this range, and we’re still far from out of the woods. But some promising trends. The cold camp on EPS has been steadily growing the past 3-4 runs. Let’s hope it keeps up  

[Front Ranger]

3 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

Salem didn’t get below 0 during the winter of ‘13-‘14 when Eugene hit -10?

They didn't have snow cover and only managed 8.

Corvallis had some (though not as deep as EUG) and hit 2. 

[Winterdog]

The Euro has me with 20" of snow and a -1F temp at the end of the run.  I am not on board this far out but it sure is captivating, especially it being the Euro.

[Parrot]

17 minutes ago, Phil said:

Don’t look at it. At not until after it has finished running.

You’ll be saner for it.

Too late for my sanity, but good advice in general  

[Parrot]

16 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Cliff's model is not onboard.

Historic snow confirmed