MossMan Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Phil said: You want ZR? Are you a masochist? I like all exciting out of the norm (47 degree warm front drizzle for days on end) weather! So yes! 3 1 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawksfan2008 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: Crazy. Sleet or rain down there? 90% rain. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken in Wood Village Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Since the low seems to be moving in South of Portland, I see the East winds staying longer and not really getting a South wind. I think I'm going to be in the ice box for awhile 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Defense Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, bainbridgekid said: Down to 31 with freezing rain here. Cars starting to glaze over and the driveway was noticably slippery walking around. Still also some puddles and a liquid layer on top of the ice forming. I've hardly ever experienced ZR so it's an interesting experience at this less impactful level. You are wrong and clearly do not know what you are talking about. Cliff Mass says so. 1 Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerGarfield Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 21 minutes ago, Phil said: Yeah and if/when it does get vertically stacked that usually denotes occlusion. Mid-latitude cyclones aren’t like hurricanes, where vertical alignment is prerequisite for rapid strengthening. If anything it’s the opposite. Those WxBell “L” symbols are useful for tracking mature(ing) tropical systems. Meaningless for middle latitude cyclones, though. What was your final total for snow? Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24. Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24 Days with trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T) First Freeze: 10/27/2023 Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24) Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24) Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: I bet it snows here tomorrow. I'm definitely noticing a southward shift compared to model guidance. Lows like these can compound errors fast if models are biased against or towards a steady rate of strengthening. You are getting snow tomorrow... count on it. That is 100% serious. 6 3 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, TT-SEA said: You are getting snow tomorrow... count on it. That is 100% serious. MBG Tim? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Hawksfan2008 said: 90% rain. Ugggh. Looks like precip might let up soon though. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Cliff gonna have a big long blog post tomorrow explaining how he was "right" because downtown never saw freezing rain and blah blah blah blah the haters tried to get him again but failed etc etc 5 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 30.2 and everything is coated here now. 2 2 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said: Low quality image (thanks iPhone) but already a layer of ice on everything. However I believe in Cliff Mass since he said there is no way freezing rain is possible and I shouldn’t look outside This guy is so out of touch lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, MossMan said: I like all exciting out of the norm (47 degree warm front drizzle for days on end) weather! So yes! Given how fragile your power grid is, I think that’s analogous to someone in Oklahoma rooting for a tornado. Good luck, brother! 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, RentonHill said: Cliff gonna have a big long blog post tomorrow explaining how he was "right" because downtown never saw freezing rain and blah blah blah blah the haters tried to get him again but failed etc etc #fakefreeze #oldmanwinter 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, RentonHill said: Cliff gonna have a big long blog post tomorrow explaining how he was "right" because downtown never saw freezing rain and blah blah blah blah the haters tried to get him again but failed etc etc I have no idea what he was thinking. He knows evaporative cooling is a thing. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Ken in Wood Village said: Since the low seems to be moving in South of Portland, I see the East winds staying longer and not really getting a South wind. I think I'm going to be in the ice box for awhile Wow it looks like it’s headed for a Central Oregon Coast landfall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: You are getting snow tomorrow... count on it. That is 100% serious. Yeah that low is juuuuuust starting to hook north, but it's far too late. This is a Jim-style bust and I wouldn't be surprised if the forecast deteriorates rapidly for the poor folks at the NWS tonight. VERY interesting situation. 6 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Phil said: Given how fragile your power grid is, I think that’s analogous to someone in Oklahoma rooting for a tornado. Good luck, brother! I am set up to be just fine off the grid for quite a while if needed. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, RentonHill said: Cliff gonna have a big long blog post tomorrow explaining how he was "right" because downtown never saw freezing rain and blah blah blah blah the haters tried to get him again but failed etc etc Perhaps that's what he really meant? 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: I have no idea what he was thinking. He knows evaporative cooling is a thing. i mean...literally only downside for him on that one. Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, Meatyorologist said: Yeah that low is juuuuuust starting to hook north, but it's far too late. This is a Jim-style bust and I wouldn't be surprised if the forecast deteriorates rapidly for the poor folks at the NWS tonight. VERY interesting situation. The Oregon coast low is not the low for tomorrow. That thing cruises across Oregon tonight. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ms. Anthrop Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: I have no idea what he was thinking. He knows evaporative cooling is a thing. Does he though? Cause he knows roads are always warm and ZR isn't happening right now. I'm just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have no idea what he was thinking. He knows evaporative cooling is a thing. Verbatim this is a fairly borderline sounding, though. Maybe things work differently in the PNW w/rt low level advection, but this would never culminate in a severe ice storm in my region. Too easy to mix out. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 If a Heat Wave is classified as 3 straight days of 90+ highs. Then it’s winter equivalent a Cold Wave aka Arctic Blast should be classified as 3 straight subfreezing highs. And we accomplished just that. Make that 4 straight subfreezing highs for PDX. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Lynden is down to 29 degrees. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I am amazed how far south this low is coming in at. I know it has caught me by surprise. Looks like a small band of snow is getting close to Spokane, so looking forward to that! 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, Meatyorologist said: Yeah that low is juuuuuust starting to hook north, but it's far too late. This is a Jim-style bust and I wouldn't be surprised if the forecast deteriorates rapidly for the poor folks at the NWS tonight. VERY interesting situation. At least they put out that advisory. Some local community colleges cancelled evening classes based on that warning, which is good because those students weren't driving home in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: The Oregon coast low is not the low for tomorrow. That thing cruises across Oregon tonight. oh you're right.. 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said: Perhaps that's what he really meant? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken in Wood Village Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, Frontal Snowsquall said: Wow it looks like it’s headed for a Central Oregon Coast landfall. Yea!! Normally when it goes there the east winds don't let up which keeps pumping out cold air to the Portland area and especially my area. The temperature is 20.7° degrees. It was almost 19 at one point. We'll see what happens tomorrow morning. I'm getting some sleep, night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fircrest Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Still light rain and 34. Nothing frozen here except for the ground under the coating of fresh rain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaleighHillsRunner Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, Ken in Wood Village said: Since the low seems to be moving in South of Portland, I see the East winds staying longer and not really getting a South wind. I think I'm going to be in the ice box for awhile Icing up everywhere, still no power at the house - so done with this event. These wind storms with some adjacent frozenish precipitation are no fun. 1 6 1 Quote Portland | Raleigh Hills/West Sylvan | 350’ ”All models are wrong, some are useful.” -G. Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, RentonHill said: i mean...literally only downside for him on that one. Why? Because he doesn't have everyone looking to HIM for the answers. They are looking elsewhere and that's wrong. He's the expert on all the local weather phenomena. And he's going to let us know it, whether we ask or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_convergence_zone Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Phil said: Verbatim this is a fairly borderline sounding, though. Maybe things work differently in the PNW w/rt low level advection, but this would never culminate in a severe ice storm in my region. I think everyone would agree that it’s borderline. The problem is that we don’t treat our side roads and have hills so the last time we had maybe a quarter inch of ice in Seattle the parked cars started spontaneously sliding down hills and crashing into each other. So even 0.1” with our frozen ground is going to cause crashes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: Yeah that low is juuuuuust starting to hook north, but it's far too late. This is a Jim-style bust and I wouldn't be surprised if the forecast deteriorates rapidly for the poor folks at the NWS tonight. VERY interesting situation. A secondary low is shown forming off of the NW Washington coast. Or at least that’s what the models are seeing. That low headed for Oregon was never going to Make it that far north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Phil said: Verbatim this is a fairly borderline sounding, though. Maybe things work differently out there, but this would never culminate in a severe ice storm in my region. This isn’t a severe ice storm like last winter. That was quite severe. Currently the roads were treated nicely last few days so i dont expect that to be an issue. Untreated surfaces however is getting a little bit of coating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4z HRRR shows the surface energy transfer from the OR low to the BC shortwave between h7 and h8, at h9 new surface low is just west of Seattle over Olympics similar to Euro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Apparently our road doesn't have ice yet, but the sidewalk and garbage cans do. Odds on garbage collection being cancelled for .1 inch of ice or less? (To be fair, I don't want those massive things driving around and trying to stop in any amount of ice on these hills.) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Currently 6 degrees at Stevens Pass, and 7 at Snoqualmie Pass. 1 4 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said: I think everyone would agree that it’s borderline. The problem is that we don’t treat our side roads and have hills so the last time we had maybe a quarter inch of ice in Seattle the parked cars started spontaneously sliding down hills and crashing into each other. So even 0.1” with our frozen ground is going to cause crashes. Whoever makes those decisions sounds like an incompetent buffoon. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingstonWX Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Temp says 30 but nothing seems to be frozen. If you go outside, it just feels like a typical rain event. Odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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