snow_wizard Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: We ll see. If Sea Tac really has a low of 22 I agree, but you have to remember the ground is pretty warm. Tulsa just had 5” of snow melt in 2 days with temps never getting out of the 30s. I have never really bought the warm ground thing. I've never seen much evidence of it if the snow is able to overcome the relatively warm ground and stick in the first place. This snow would have high moisture content which makes it harder to melt, because it's so dense. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 I feel a coming. 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, snow_wizard said: I have never really bought the warm ground thing. I've never seen much evidence of it if the snow is able to overcome the relatively warm ground and stick in the first place. This snow would have high moisture content which makes it harder to melt, because it's so dense. It makes a big difference with light snow but not nearly as much with heavy precip. 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Quite a bit of support for the operational. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weather_fan Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: 36/22 on Wednesday for Seattle. Not bad. Lol 22 .. i will take 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadbro Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Here's all of Oregon thru the end of the run. Gross 1 Quote https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/efcb24c8a999dceddfaba7469ce5bd2f my personal weather station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: The sun is way weaker up here. It was cloudy, it actually snowed all day on Tuesday and the high was like 34. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have never really bought the warm ground thing. I've never seen much evidence of it if the snow is able to overcome the relatively warm ground and stick in the first place. This snow would have high moisture content which makes it harder to melt, because it's so dense. I don’t think the warm ground will keep it from sticking. But if it is getting well above freezing during the day it will be melting from the top and bottom. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakerepp Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: First NAM run to show anything. NAM is on board with! Now we’re in business! Quote Home Weather Station Stats for 2023 High - Satans Bunghole Lowest High - Not sure Low - I don't have the data Sub 40 highs - Not quite Sub-freezing highs - Try again Lows below 25 - You're joking Lows below 20 - No 2023 Snowfall - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 We go from 54F to 38F in one day on the ensembles so that's pretty cool to see a rapid drop in temps like that. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: First NAM run to show anything. Seeing the PSCZ cone again. Seems consistent. This thing is gonna get someone a real good snow event. Could be Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Tim is going to get enough snow it won’t all melt at his place by Christmas. Plus, he lives in a mountain valley, he’s probably getting like 3 hours of direct sunlight a day right now. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmet Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 I’m on the axis of the NAM PSCZ. Good that it’s finally catching on. Will have to see if other meso models follow suite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, puyallupjon said: Where is Jim? I thought he'd be around to analyze the details. Am I making a freaking snow monster Monday afternoon or not? If your yard has the right ingredients, a mud monster is a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van city Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, jakerepp said: NAM is on board with! Now we’re in business! Do I need to remind you that this 10:1 ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Tim is going to get enough snow it won’t all melt at his place by Christmas. Plus, he lives in a mountain valley, he’s probably getting like 3 hours of direct sunlight a day right now. Yeah... its under 5 hours of direct sunlight here now but it does not really matter in terms of melting snow with dry air and a peak sun angle of 19 degrees. The snow here will not melt until we have a south wind and rain which probably won't happen until Saturday. If we get even 2 inches of snow on Monday then we are guaranteed another white Christmas. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have never really bought the warm ground thing. I've never seen much evidence of it if the snow is able to overcome the relatively warm ground and stick in the first place. This snow would have high moisture content which makes it harder to melt, because it's so dense. Warm ground is definitely a thing. You guys will likely see what October snow is here when the snow will melt from the ground up with highs only in the teens and 20's. The ground in the PNW is extremely saturated right now which equals warmth. It takes a couple weeks of cold temps to truly freeze the ground up. 6 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Yeah... its under 5 hours of direct sunlight here now but it does not really matter in terms of melting snow with dry air and a peak sun angle of 19 degrees. The snow here will not melt until we have a south wind and rain which probably won't happen until Saturday. If we get even 2 inches of snow on Monday then we are guaranteed another white Christmas. We might get 2”, but it will melt in a day most likely. But it should be a pretty chilly week. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kayla said: Warm ground is definitely a thing. You guys will likely see what October snow is here when the snow will melt from the ground up with highs only in the teens and 20's. The ground in the PNW is extremely saturated right now which equals warmth. It takes a couple weeks of cold temps to truly freeze the ground up. If that were true we'd never see snow stick around around here. One cold dry night is usually enough to freeze the top layer of ground enough to prevent any melting from below. 3 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: If that were true we'd never see snow stick around around here. One cold dry night is usually enough to freeze the top layer of ground enough to prevent any melting from below. If you saw that before the snow you'd have a better shot at that but with the snow coming in before a hard freeze the ground will not freeze up enough with the blanket of snow. Snow is an incredible insulator. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Looks like it's time to pay attention 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Getting a little breezy out there. Gust of 26 at pdx!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 The rug pull will likely come tomorrow morning. Wait for it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, puyallupjon said: The rug pull will likely come tomorrow morning. Wait for it. For your and my area, best case scenario is 1-2” of slushy snow that’ll be gone the next day. If the best case scenario happens get out there and make that snow monster ASAP. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bryant said: Looks like it's time to pay attention Good to see you back man. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Kuchera ratios FWIW. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Way OT. Sorry. I've been reading reviews and watching hilarious videos of Cyberpunk 2077. It is one of the most disappointing and buggy video games to ever have been released. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kayla said: If you saw that before the snow you'd have a better shot at that but with the snow coming in before a hard freeze the ground will not freeze up enough with the blanket of snow. Snow is an incredible insulator. This is definitely true. In February 2019 I got almost a foot of snow the first night and temps fell into the low 20's but the ground was still sloppy mud underneath the snow like 24 hours later. 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 If the maps hold true I could maybe see me making you all a Swamp Monster. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, dolt said: Way OT. Sorry. I've been reading reviews and watching hilarious videos of Cyberpunk 2077. It is one of the most disappointing and buggy video games to ever have been released. Mine seems to be fine but the console version seems to be a disaster. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, puyallupjon said: If the maps hold true I could maybe see me making you all a Swamp Monster. Stay tuned. I use to work for the City of Puyallup. Small world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, SouthHillFrosty said: I use to work for the City of Puyallup. Small world RGEM falling in line with the gfs/euro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Is weird I have no idea what cyberpunk is? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said: I use to work for the City of Puyallup. Small world I know a lot of people that work for the city. They love it. Hard to get snow down in the swamp. Out your way with some elevation it's a bit easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Is weird I have no idea what cyberpunk is? No...I don’t have a clue either. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Is weird I have no idea what cyberpunk is? New open-world video game that's been in development for years. Made by the same people that did The Witcher series. I am really enjoying Cyberpunk so far. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, puyallupjon said: I know a lot of people that work for the city. They love it. Hard to get snow down in the swamp. Out your way with some elevation it's a bit easier. I have some more elevation than you, but within about 1/4 of a mile from the water so our snow odds are fairly similar. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said: New open-world video game that's been in development for years. Made by the same people that did The Witcher series. I am really enjoying Cyberpunk so far. Cool. I don’t know much about video games but I’m glad you like it. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Mine seems to be fine but the console version seems to be a disaster. PlayStation is issuing refunds, I have played video games since I was a kid I have never heard about that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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