Grizzcoat Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Tom said: Just brutal cold up in the Northwoods this past Sun morning... I-Falls and much of N.MN having a very cold first 45-46 days of 2022. I-FALLS (with a very good climo record well over 100 years) is currently running in the top 10 coldest Jan/Feb in recorded history. One most throw out 1897 as it has missing data. So in the last 100 years -- only 5 Jan/FEB's thus far have been colder. Being it was -27F this AM at I-Falls and currently 0F--- they clearly have overtaken 1912. Impressive to say the least. I-FALLS top ten coldest JAN/FEB 1 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 8:08 PM, OmahaSnowFan said: Like this one? Watching it gives me chills! You go to places in Montana,Dakotas etc… they have gates that close the highways… I have driven 94 during a LES event and it goes from sunny to zero visibility in seconds… they should close that stretch during these events 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 And Hibbing,MN right now #1. Climo only goes back to the early 1960's, but still, very impressive. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, indianajohn said: You go to places in Montana,Dakotas etc… they have gates that close the highways… I have driven 94 during a LES event and it goes from sunny to zero visibility in seconds… they should close that stretch during these events Iowa has cattle gates that shut down entries to I-35-- at least N of DSM when the going gets tough. I've taken back routes to and from the Twin Cities on HWY 169 and it's actually kinda of fun if you prepared and not willing to make time. 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Winter fail. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 2" of fluff last night up in Vadnais Heights. By the time I got south of the TC there was no fresh snow. Good snowpack up there (several inches maybe 6+). I think MSP might be slightly above normal snowfall so far this season?? Been a good winter for the northern sub. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, OmahaSnowFan said: Winter fail. Not so much in the true N. I used to do some forecasting for Lutsen Mtns ski resort back 5-10 years ago. The cold this year has previous patrons asking when enough is enough. Not so much the snow, but the cold there is certainly something to reckon with. It's amazing how down the winter has been in NEB etc,, but just to the N in N.MN how much it changes. ALso--- the drought that is evident now in NE-- it happened last year in S ONT/ N.MN which lead to the fires of last summer, it seems the pattern has shifted this precip deficit into NEB and the Central Plains. Grand Forks is having a great year for snowfall, last year was like Pierre,SD. 4 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: Not so much in the true N. I used to do some forecasting for Lutsen Mtns ski resort back 5-10 years ago. The cold this year has previous patrons asking when enough is enough. Not so much the snow, but the cold there is certainly something to reckon with. It's amazing how down the winter has been in NEB etc,, but just to the N in N.MN how much it changes. ALso--- the drought that is evident now in NE-- it happened last year in S ONT/ N.MN which lead to the fires of last summer, it seems the pattern has shifted this precip deficit into NEB and the Central Plains. Grand Forks is having a great year for snowfall, last year was like Pierre,SD. Can we shift it someplace else next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltrami Island Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, OmahaSnowFan said: Winter fail. This kind of statistic is as useless as when, for a brief period some years, there is snow on the ground in all 50 states. As a snapshot, this probably map I would predict with a dominant ridge in the west and a NW flow over the northeastern 2/3 of the CONUS. If it were an el nino I would expect the STJ to undercut the western ridge and possibly lead to a storm or two to lay down some wet snow over the south central/southeast states. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beltrami Island said: This kind of statistic is as useless as when, for a brief period some years, there is snow on the ground in all 50 states. As a snapshot, this probably map I would predict with a dominant ridge in the west and a NW flow over the northeastern 2/3 of the CONUS. If it were an el nino I would expect the STJ to undercut the western ridge and possibly lead to a storm or two to lay down some wet snow over the south central/southeast states. True as well, one day doesn't show the whole picture. Still a mediocre winter at best outside of a few areas though, terrible in many spots. 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Beltrami Island said: This kind of statistic is as useless as when, for a brief period some years, there is snow on the ground in all 50 states. As a snapshot, this probably map I would predict with a dominant ridge in the west and a NW flow over the northeastern 2/3 of the CONUS. If it were an el nino I would expect the STJ to undercut the western ridge and possibly lead to a storm or two to lay down some wet snow over the south central/southeast states. A lot of places are well under average this year in Michigan. 73 percent of the nation had snow cover last Feb 16th. That's crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 72*, Sunny, windy, 18mph. Tomorrow the same but Thunderstorms mostly overnight, wind about 22 mph. Wednesday rain early, high of 52. Its acting like Spring but way too early for that. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Beltrami Island said: This kind of statistic is as useless as when, for a brief period some years, there is snow on the ground in all 50 states. As a snapshot, this probably map I would predict with a dominant ridge in the west and a NW flow over the northeastern 2/3 of the CONUS. If it were an el nino I would expect the STJ to undercut the western ridge and possibly lead to a storm or two to lay down some wet snow over the south central/southeast states. the idea being that for the middle of February, snow cover in the US sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Your weekly "sunny with nothing of consequence forecast" for Omaha. I love the look of those 50s and a 60 though... Tonight Partly cloudy, with a low around 22. Light east northeast wind becoming east southeast 5 to 10 mph in the evening. Tuesday Mostly sunny, with a high near 57. Breezy, with a south southeast wind 11 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph. Tuesday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. South wind 9 to 15 mph becoming northwest after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 22 mph. Wednesday Mostly cloudy, with a high near 37. North wind around 16 mph, with gusts as high as 24 mph. Wednesday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 12. North wind around 16 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Thursday Mostly sunny, with a high near 28. Thursday Night Mostly clear, with a low around 15. Friday Sunny, with a high near 52. Friday Night Mostly clear, with a low around 25. Saturday Sunny, with a high near 53. Saturday Night Clear, with a low around 34. Sunday Sunny, with a high near 61. Breezy. Sunday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 35. Washington's Birthday Partly sunny, with a high near 55. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 NWS Hastings morning disco. Maybe there is some hope next week. Heard that before, haven't we? Glancing beyond our official 7-day forecast into next week: Some definite uncertainty abounds here, but if anything the latest ECMWF EPS ensemble is suggesting a return to a predominantly colder temperature regime next week (especially beyond Mon), with highs perhaps prevailing more in the 30s (possibly 20s). There are also early hints of MAYBE a more active pattern for much-needed precipitation (perhaps as early as the 22nd-24th time frame), but the cynics in the crowd will rightfully point out that we`ve been "teased" by model projections of winter storms for our local area beyond a week out several times already this winter that didn`t pan out. The bottom line is that there are at least OPPORTUNITIES for more active weather next week, and all it will take is one decent system to remind us that there is still plenty of late- winter/early spring left to at least make a dent in our pronounced "snow drought". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, CentralNebWeather said: NWS Hastings morning disco. Maybe there is some hope next week. Heard that before, haven't we? Glancing beyond our official 7-day forecast into next week: Some definite uncertainty abounds here, but if anything the latest ECMWF EPS ensemble is suggesting a return to a predominantly colder temperature regime next week (especially beyond Mon), with highs perhaps prevailing more in the 30s (possibly 20s). There are also early hints of MAYBE a more active pattern for much-needed precipitation (perhaps as early as the 22nd-24th time frame), but the cynics in the crowd will rightfully point out that we`ve been "teased" by model projections of winter storms for our local area beyond a week out several times already this winter that didn`t pan out. The bottom line is that there are at least OPPORTUNITIES for more active weather next week, and all it will take is one decent system to remind us that there is still plenty of late- winter/early spring left to at least make a dent in our pronounced "snow drought". The 12z models looked good for Neb to get a good amount of moisture, I have my fingers crossed for you guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Clinton said: The 12z models looked good for Neb to get a good amount of moisture, I have my fingers crossed for you guys. Thanks. Just assume every storm will miss us, and unfortunately, that is what has occurred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 8:11 PM, jaster220 said: LOL. If any of you were jealous of my headline, don't be. I didn't get 3 or 4 tenths here, let alone 3 or 4 inches. It's not like The Plains snow drought, but I've been missed N, S, and now East! Yesterday here was a joke, yet just about 6 miles to my NE, this was happening: PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 1139 AM EST MON FEB 14 2022 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0545 PM SNOW 2 WSW WOLVERINE LAKE 42.55N 83.51W 02/13/2022 M3.0 INCH OAKLAND MI TRAINED SPOTTER 4 HOUR SNOWFALL TOTAL. 0700 PM SNOW 3 N LIVONIA 42.44N 83.38W 02/13/2022 M6.0 INCH WAYNE MI NWS EMPLOYEE 5 HOUR SNOWFALL TOTAL. REPORTED FROM RETIRED NWS EMPLOYEE. 0706 PM SNOW 2 N LIVONIA 42.43N 83.37W 02/13/2022 M5.0 INCH WAYNE MI PUBLIC 6 HOUR SNOWFALL TOTAL. 0709 PM SNOW 4 NE LIVONIA 42.43N 83.32W 02/13/2022 M5.3 INCH WAYNE MI PUBLIC 6 HOUR SNOWFALL TOTAL. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellona Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Put this on the wrong thread first. How far south do you think this one goes?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 42 minutes ago, Bellona said: Put this on the wrong thread first. How far south do you think this one goes?? March storms? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Living. 3-4" expected tomorrow 20220214_160521.mp4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Madtown said: Living. 3-4" expected tomorrow 20220214_160521.mp4 I know that bridge! Looks epic up there...enjoy the beautiful scenery.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Well alrighty then....last night's Euro Weeklies just flashed the biggest flip yet this Winter....I see a snow Blitz coming down the piper...MAR coming in like Lion this year...our Lone Star State of TX ain't see the last of Winter just yet... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 One last post, if the Euro Op and GEFS are right in terms of the 10mb STRAT warming...it'll have Big implications to how the pattern sets up in MAR...let me just say, it's not looking very "Spring" like...head to FL or the SW if you wanna see warmer temps for the 1st half of MAR. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Last year to now. Our school was on its 4th snow/cold day in two weeks. This year nothing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 ^^^^^ NWS is suspect at forecasting at times, but they sure suck at proof reading graphics before they post it. Broken Bow has 97F difference if my math is correct. Must be something in the water in NEB as OMX is really bad also. 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Tom said: One last post, if the Euro Op and GEFS are right in terms of the 10mb STRAT warming...it'll have Big implications to how the pattern sets up in MAR...let me just say, it's not looking very "Spring" like...head to FL or the SW if you wanna see warmer temps for the 1st half of MAR. Nothing but dry cold air, I can’t wait!! I’m so excited, I just can’t hide it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Warm and windy today, going for a high in the mid 60s with 40mph winds. Red flag warning in effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 I recorded just over one inch of new snow fall here early last night. This was a fluffy lake effect snow and was very easy to clear off the driveway this morning. There is now 6" of total snow on the ground there at my house with about 3" of light fluff and 3" of very hard back snow. Officially for the month of February Grand Rapids is now at 12.3" and for the season GR is now at 57.9" that is still -2.3" below were GR should be on February 15th. Today will be the 52nd day in a row of at least 1" of snow on the ground at GR and it will be the 62nd day of at least 1" of snow on the ground this winter season (Nov to today) At this time it is cloudy and 19 here at my house. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezer Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 The late FEB early march extreme cold shot shown on GEFs can only happen if the MJO tropical forcing treads water in phase 3 the rest of FEB pumping a -EPO. If not , if it makes it to 4 during the last week of FEB , the outcome would be much different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, CentralNebWeather said: Last year to now. Our school was on its 4th snow/cold day in two weeks. This year nothing. I forgot how brutally cold it was out west compared to over here. We still had it very cold but nothing like your region. It felt like living in Alaska, esp seeing it snow in subzero weather. Quite the experience! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, westMJim said: I recorded just over one inch of new snow fall here early last night. This was a fluffy lake effect snow and was very easy to clear off the driveway this morning. There is now 6" of total snow on the ground there at my house with about 3" of light fluff and 3" of very hard back snow. Officially for the month of February Grand Rapids is now at 12.3" and for the season GR is now at 57.9" that is still -2.3" below were GR should be on February 15th. Today will be the 52nd day in a row of at least 1" of snow on the ground at GR and it will be the 62nd day of at least 1" of snow on the ground this winter season (Nov to today) At this time it is cloudy and 19 here at my house. Your experiencing quite the stretch of winter conditions. What is the mood of the locals in your area? Or their opinion on this winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tom said: Your experiencing quite the stretch of winter conditions. What is the mood of the locals in your area? Or their opinion on this winter? I think most are sick of it. While it hasn't been extreme cold, it's been cold and dull. The snowpack has been around a long time, no thaw this year, should melt a lot of it tomorrow before it snows again. I think people here get depressed by the cloudiness from Lake MI and the lack of a thaw. It's so much different than the rest of the Mid-West. At least when it's cold you all get some sun. Not here. I believe Muskegon is near the top in America's cloudiest places in the winter. So if it's gonna be winter, I think people want plenty of snow at least. That hasn't really happened. Been pretty much just a blah winter. And knowing winter lasts until late April now is even worse. Though last year was much better in March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tom said: Your experiencing quite the stretch of winter conditions. What is the mood of the locals in your area? Or their opinion on this winter? The mood for the most part varies. There has been snow on the ground since December 27th 19" of snow fell in the 1st 6 days of January, there was a long period of very little snow fall before over 5" fell on February 2nd The reason the snow has held around was that the 2 biggest events of 8" and 5.1" were not lake effect thus wetter snow that with the colder than average temperatures were able to hang on longer. So with not much snow falling on a daily bases (that can happen here with lake effect) the winter as a whole has seemed rather mild. But that said I work at the top two entertainment venues in west Michigan and I think that most of the people that I come in contact with are ready for spring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Madtown said: Living. 3-4" expected tomorrow 20220214_160521.mp4 That's beautiful. I still have my sled on my trailer lol. I started siphoning the fuel out of it to put into other vehicles right now since there's not enough snow on the lake to ride and the next storm looks to be going south again. I need a cheap cabin up in the UP really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Thankfully Texas is coming out of the last of the brutal cold that rivaled last year’s disaster. Oh wait, it was in the 70s the last several days…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CentralNebWeather Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 12Z GFS with lots of storminess in the extended. You would think we could score at least one storm. We'll see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, tStacsh said: I think people here get depressed by the cloudiness from Lake MI and the lack of a thaw. It's so much different than the rest of the Mid-West. At least when it's cold you all get some sun. Not here. I believe Muskegon is near the top in America's cloudiest places in the winter. Our coldest days in winter are almost always full sun. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: 12Z GFS with lots of storminess in the extended. You would think we could score at least one storm. We'll see. This will be some big cutters. The western plains and the north should score well. Lower Lakes will be Morch like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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