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PNW December 2022 - Part II


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9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

What happened?  Not home.   I did see some highlights and its not snowing and you would never know they are buried outside the stadium.  

Bills fans raining snowballs on the field. They stopped the game for a bit, threatened to give the Bills a 15 yard penalty. 

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1 hour ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Looks like Mark is going for a total non-event (assuming he is the one forecasting tonight) Seems pretty bold to not have even a single day below 35 or any frozen precip next week but who knows. I’m fairly bearish about this event overall but a high in the low 30s Thursday and some ZR definitely seems possible.

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I don't think he's updated it yet. With the cold EPS I find it hard to believe Mark isn't biting at all.

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27 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The 2004 comparison makes some sense even though I’d be surprised if things worked out that well south of PDX. The 2012 comparison is non sensical to me. Not nearly the level of arctic air nearby or potential for offshore flow. 

Didn’t BLI pull off a 19/12 day in January 2012? I remember being shocked how cold the outflow was.

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Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

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Just now, Gradient Keeper said:

I don't think he's updated it yet. With the cold EPS I find it hard to believe Mark isn't biting at all.

He will at least do another blog post, maybe not tonight but by tomorrow afternoon.  Better not be a lame one where he only mentions his chickens.

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16 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

WTF is going on at The Dalles?! They just jumped from 34 to 46.

I just jumped from 33.4 to 33.9! 😡

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3 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Didn’t BLI pull off a 19/12 day in January 2012? I remember being shocked how cold the outflow was.

Yeah there was Fraser Outflow, but that kind of goes to Jesse s point. Overall this one looks like a different ball game. South of Seattle 2012 was a total onshore flow fest except for like 8 hours at the end of the event. East of the cascades and the gorge look to potentially be way colder with this thing. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Including today, we have seen 18 freezes so far. Doing pretty good. Had some fog move in and warm us up to 35F or so on a couple of those nights where EUG got down to freezing and must have cleared out.

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  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

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  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
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  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Seems like the operational has some ensemble support in the long range. Also the long range GFS ensemble definitely trending colder in mid

January. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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I also don't understand the 1/2012 comparisons-- this looks colder down here. That was a ton of onshore flow and foothill snow-- this one seems to have a lot more Gorge CAA.

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems like the operational has some ensemble support in the long range. Also the long range GFS ensemble definitely trending colder in mid

January. 

Southeast ridge too. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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22 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Didn’t BLI pull off a 19/12 day in January 2012? I remember being shocked how cold the outflow was.

That one was entirely Fraser River driven (and more of a seepage at that) with almost no penetration into the Columbia Basin. The outflow was very cold in Whatcom County, but rather anemic in its intensity. The winds topped out around 30mph at BLI and I remember the arctic air took about 18 hours to get from Ferndale to Fairhaven.

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RGEM just did a total cave to the GFS. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Ya, lots of alignment. I didn't expect the cold to get stretched out to late Thu/Fri today. Tuesday low trending to a night/Wed morning low with plenty of time for adjustments. And cold just getting entrenched which can only help PDX and maybe better. 

I mean how often does this happen for this long?

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6 minutes ago, Sandy rocks said:

I don't see how it could be 46 in The Dalles. It is 32 here in Sandy. A frosty day with a high of 34.

Roads were pretty frost free up at Mt Hood in the afternoon, on the drive back going through east Sandy it was still super frosty there. 
 

40/25 day with long lasting frost in OC
 

 

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