PNW December 2022 - Part II

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, Dave said:

There were some light pillar sightings in central Oregon a couple of days ago. That doesn't happen too frequently in Oregon. This was from Redmond.

they had those at Spokane airport yesterday I believe.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

7 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

So comparing December 2022 to 2021 is interesting. 2021 was definitely a much more solid event altogether but this month will likely be atleast 1-1.5 degrees colder than 2021. Still 2 pretty solid decembers in a row. 
                                2021         2022                   

sub 40 highs          8                9

sub 32 highs          4                2

Snowfall days        8                 6

measurable snow 11.0”            4.1”

coldest max          24               25

coldest min           16                19

Mean temp           -2.1            -4.2*

Down here last December pretty much torched the first 3 weeks, and then got cold Christmas Eve. So kind of the opposite of this year. Despite that I would definitely take last year. 27” of snow here vs 3.4” here this December. Plus the cold was sustained, but not super impressive here this year. We had 4-5 sub freezing highs last December, just one this year.

[SouthHillFrosty]

2 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

Don’t go to bed yet! We have model riding to do!!!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Also even with the upcoming torch this December may end up cooler than last. It will not be warmer, we had a 62/45 day to kick off the month last year. Though maybe tomorrow tries. I bet we don’t drop below 45 even up here until Tuesday or Wednesday. 

[TacomaWx]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Down here last December pretty much torched the first 3 weeks, and then got cold Christmas Eve. So kind of the opposite of this year. Despite that I would definitely take last year. 27” of snow here vs 3.4” here this December. Plus the cold was sustained, but not super impressive here this year. We had 4-5 sub freezing highs last December, just one this year.

Oh yeah I’d definitely take 2021 over 2022. Here atleast both were pretty solid but 2021 was snowier and just one long event as opposed to this one just being 2 separate events and an overall colder month. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Don’t go to bed yet! We have model riding to do!!!

Seems a bit suspect… What are surfaces temps with that? 

[Dave]

2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Don’t go to bed yet! We have model riding to do!!!

The GFS long range reminds me of those novelty/joke candies that are sweet and tasty until you bite into them and then they have garlic in the middle.

[Cold Snap]

34 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Now that the arctic blast is over y’all just forgot about the ICON.

Well now that you bring that up I got kinda curious to see what it was showing and it also shows a decent storm. Wind speeds aren’t that impressive with it though.

[Phishy Wx]

we snuck up to 33 IMBY.  Let the melt commence 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Oh yeah I’d definitely take 2021 over 2022. Here atleast both were pretty solid but 2021 was snowier and just one long event as opposed to this one just being 2 separate events and an overall colder month. 

This one was decent, I think it was a

lot better in your area, but it wasn’t like we were torching down here all month while you guys scored. 
 

It’s too bad the arctic air couldn’t have dug south a little better with this one, but it’s still hard to complain. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, Dave said:

The GFS long range reminds me of those novelty/joke candies that are sweet and tasty until you bite into them and then they have garlic in the middle.

Yeah if that setup gave the western lowlands a good snow event then the I 5 corridor would average a lot more than 5-10” of snow a year. 

[TacomaWx]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This one was decent, I think it was a

lot better in your area, but it wasn’t like we were torching down here all month while you guys scored. 
 

It’s too bad the arctic air couldn’t have dug south a little better with this one, but it’s still hard to complain. 

It was definitely a comparison of the event just based on the IMBY stats for the months. Down there and regionally…2021 was better. 2022 didn’t even get real snowfall down there just sleet/ice and a brief cold wave. I think most people especially south of Everett would’ve gladly taken 2021 over what verified this week. Both were good though. 

[Doinko]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

It was definitely a comparison of the event just based on the IMBY stats for the months. Down there and regionally…2021 was better. 2022 didn’t even get real snowfall down there just sleet/ice and a brief cold wave. I think most people especially south of Everett would’ve gladly taken 2021 over what verified this week. Both were good though. 

I would take this year. Last year was a bunch of sad snowfalls that melted by the afternoon. We had 4" of snow that month. This year at least some very cold highs

[SouthHillFrosty]

9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems a bit suspect… What are surfaces temps with that? 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2022 by SouthHillFrosty

[awright-31]

Looks like 57/37 here today, 37 was at midnight and had warmed to 57 by 7:30 am. Not the Christmas we all hope for but I can’t complain having had 2 cold waves prior to Christmas. Hoping January and February deliver the goods too.
 

Merry Christmas all. I appreciate all of your knowledge and the opportunity to ride the roller coaster with you… 

[TacomaWx]

Just now, Doinko said:

I would take this year. Last year was a bunch of sad snowfalls that melted by the afternoon. We had 4" of snow that year. This year at least some very cold highs

Both events got arctic up here…but 2021 definitely didn’t go arctic south of Olympia really. I did like the legit arctic airmass we got from this one. More snow south of Everett would’ve been nice but atleast it snowed some. Definitely a very memorable storm especially the ice at the end. 

[TacomaWx]

Just now, awright-31 said:

Looks like 57/37 here today, 37 was at midnight and had warmed to 57 by 7:30 am. Not the Christmas we all hope for but I can’t complain having had 2 cold waves prior to Christmas. Hoping January and February deliver the goods too.
 

Merry Christmas all. I appreciate all of your knowledge and the opportunity to ride the roller coaster with you… 

I bet we’re completely back on the model roller coaster by the time new years/early January rolls around. 

[Doinko]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Both events got arctic up here…but 2021 definitely didn’t go arctic south of Olympia really. I did like the legit arctic airmass we got from this one. More snow south of Everett would’ve been nice but atleast it snowed some. Definitely a very memorable storm especially the ice at the end. 

Yeah we got kind of snow holed in 2021 which was a bit annoying. Our biggest event was probably on the 13th from random heavy showers with an inch aside from the maybe 1.5" on the 26th

[awright-31]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Both events got arctic up here…but 2021 definitely didn’t go arctic south of Olympia really. I did like the legit arctic airmass we got from this one. More snow south of Everett would’ve been nice but atleast it snowed some. Definitely a very memorable storm especially the ice at the end. 

I would take 2021. This round was not especially memorable. No snow, a morning of ice hell and two sub freezing highs. I would have to look back at specifics, but there was definitely at least 6 inches of snow here last year and I think 3-4 days of sub freezing highs. It felt like when I was in Michigan in the winter. Not this year. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Some nice fake cold on this run. 

[Dave]

Dec 2021 was obviously way better down here but didn't have the elusive subfreezing day. Lots of wet snow though.

 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Hope all you nuts have a great Christmas,  it's been a tough year for us but we are healing and getting better. 

I'd like to ask that you give your kids and wife or husband a big hug for me and tell them you love em. They can be taken away from you at any moment in a flash. 

I sure have had a bunch of fun though the years on here with you guys and gals.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Interestingly neither this year or last will be as cold as December 2016 or 2017 down here, but they ended a 3 year torch run… now can we end the 5 year January torch run, though I guess technically last January was about average… it seemed like a torch lol. 

[Slushy Inch]

Good looking GEFS extended. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Some nice fake cold on this run. 

It's a nice chilly run. Much better than a full bore torch.

[antipex]

No light pillars here, but I did get to see diamond dust on Wednesday night when it was -18 outside.

[Gradient Keeper]

18 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Some nice fake cold on this run. 

East wind!

[Gradient Keeper]

Fun fact: It is currently colder in Hood River(25) than it is in Williams Lake, BC(27).

[Dave]

10 minutes ago, antipex said:

No light pillars here, but I did get to see diamond dust on Wednesday night when it was -18 outside.

I saw diamond dust right here in Eugene in Dec 2013 when the temps were around 0. It was only the 2nd or 3rd time I've ever seen it. 

[Dave]

8 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Fun fact: It is currently colder in Hood River(25) than it is in Williams Lake, BC(27).

I'm curious if there is another geographic feature anywhere else in the lower 48 that has the ability to generate crazy, anomalous weather like the Columbia gorge can. I can't think of one.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

I have to post these pics.

My mom is misses Christmas and always has been. She has been doing this for years and adds to it every year. 

68 years old and she still does all the lights herself, the inside of there little house is a hallmark post card. The pics do it no justice. 

[SouthHillFrosty]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I have to post these pics.

My mom is misses Christmas and always has been. She has been doing this for years and adds to it every year. 

68 years old and she still does all the lights herself, the inside of there little house is a hallmark post card. The pics do it no justice. 

That is awesome!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

30 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Fun fact: It is currently colder in Hood River(25) than it is in Williams Lake, BC(27).

14 degrees up at my cabin, cold is hanging pretty good.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I have to post these pics.

My mom is misses Christmas and always has been. She has been doing this for years and adds to it every year. 

68 years old and she still does all the lights herself, the inside of there little house is a hallmark post card. The pics do it no justice. 

Wow... that is spectacular!

[Gradient Keeper]

5 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I have to post these pics.

My mom is misses Christmas and always has been. She has been doing this for years and adds to it every year. 

68 years old and she still does all the lights herself, the inside of there little house is a hallmark post card. The pics do it no justice. 

Wonderful pics and displays. I like your Mom already! Tell her I said "Merry Christmas!"

[HuskyMaestro]

17 minutes ago, Dave said:

I'm curious if there is another geographic feature anywhere else in the lower 48 that has the ability to generate crazy, anomalous weather like the Columbia gorge can. I can't think of one.

I almost wanna say the Black Hills in SD where in Rapid City, the Chinook winds can rapidly raise the temps to 50-60F and create a warm bubble surrounded by cold air. That area's been on my bucket list to go hiking sometime.

Still doesn't feel as impressive as the Gorge though. 

[HuskyMaestro]

6 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I have to post these pics.

My mom is misses Christmas and always has been. She has been doing this for years and adds to it every year. 

68 years old and she still does all the lights herself, the inside of there little house is a hallmark post card. The pics do it no justice. 

That is so sweet and I absolutely love it. All it needs is snow outside to make it the full absolute wonderland. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Uh oh… 

https://apple.news/AqesPF8CPQfakf_w3iNGZiA

[Deweydog]

21 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I have to post these pics.

My mom is misses Christmas and always has been. She has been doing this for years and adds to it every year. 

68 years old and she still does all the lights herself, the inside of there little house is a hallmark post card. The pics do it no justice. 

She’s a rockstar! Wtg mom!

What’s her call for January??!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

15 minutes ago, HuskyMaestro said:

I almost wanna say the Black Hills in SD where in Rapid City, the Chinook winds can rapidly raise the temps to 50-60F and create a warm bubble surrounded by cold air. That area's been on my bucket list to go hiking sometime.

Still doesn't feel as impressive as the Gorge though. 

The Black Hills are magical!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

7 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

She’s a rockstar! Wtg mom!

What’s her call for January??!

She said 3 weeks to go!

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Merry Christmas to all of y'all who have brightened my spirits and have shown me such graciousness. I'm grateful for all of you. Thank you for helping me overcome my struggles with epilepsy with this happiness.

[Deweydog]

9 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

She said 3 weeks to go!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Holy shitt I'm on TV!

Edited December 25, 2022 by MR.SNOWMIZER

[DRG]

Alright, I'm confused.  Why the F is it snowing?!?  SE Portland, about 300' ASL.  Not home, but it's snowing according to my cam feed and there's nothing showing up on radar.  Have I mentioned that I'm confused?

 

[SouthHillFrosty]

4 minutes ago, DRG said:

Alright, I'm confused.  Why the F is it snowing?!?  SE Portland, about 300' ASL.  Not home, but it's snowing according to my cam feed and there's nothing showing up on radar.  Have I mentioned that I'm confused?

 

@Gradient Keeperyo what’s going on down there?

[MossMan]

4 minutes ago, DRG said:

Alright, I'm confused.  Why the F is it snowing?!?  SE Portland, about 300' ASL.  Not home, but it's snowing according to my cam feed and there's nothing showing up on radar.  Have I mentioned that I'm confused?

 

It’s a Christmas miracle!

[WeatherGeek2022]

4 minutes ago, DRG said:

Alright, I'm confused.  Why the F is it snowing?!?  SE Portland, about 300' ASL.  Not home, but it's snowing according to my cam feed and there's nothing showing up on radar.  Have I mentioned that I'm confused?

 

weather got a mind of its own looks like

[Gradient Keeper]

6 minutes ago, DRG said:

Alright, I'm confused.  Why the F is it snowing?!?  SE Portland, about 300' ASL.  Not home, but it's snowing according to my cam feed and there's nothing showing up on radar.  Have I mentioned that I'm confused?

 

Crazy. Upper air temps 925mb, 850mb are too warm to support snow. I am however sitting at 31.4 near west Gresham. NWS AFD says offshore flow will increase tonight into tomorrow morning pulling more cold air out of the Gorge. Hmmmm!

[MossMan]

It’s coming. The big redux!