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5 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

Until then my Banana trees continue to grow !!! I bought a single small plant years ago to accent a little pond.  Now their taking over my yard! 
Next year I need to thin the herd.  

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Both banana AND palm trees! A Phil-approved garden!

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25 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

Until then my Banana trees continue to grow !!! I bought a single small plant years ago to accent a little pond.  Now their taking over my yard! 
Next year I need to thin the herd.  

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lol that looks like my folks backyard in South Carolina

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27 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That's what happened here in December 2016... Almost unimaginable we could go that long without a freeze, but things turned out just fine. 

Our roses were in full bloom when it started snowing on 12/4/16.    

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Our roses were in full bloom when it started snowing on 12/4/16.    

I found some quite tasty blackberries still on the vines during the snow of November 2010. They were growing in our wood pile and must have been slightly protected, but it was still a unique sight to see.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 0"

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4 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

I just smoked some PCP, so the 18z is going to be AMAZING!

Get a huff of DMT smoked through a broken mercury thermometer and you'll have forecasting skillz on par with the Panasonic.

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19 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Our roses were in full bloom when it started snowing on 12/4/16.    

Last year we didn’t freeze until 12/25 as well. 2008,2016 and 2021 were all exceptionally late first freezes that proceeded very good winters. 

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2023-2024 cold season stats

Lowest Max-39

Lowest Min-27

Sub 40 Highs-1

Sub 32 Highs-0

Freezes-13

Rainfall MTD-1.37”

Rainfall (Since 10/1)- 10.26”

Total snowfall-0.0”

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18z is running…hopefully we continue to have really good control/ensemble runs. The EPS mean is really good…doesn’t even seem possible that there could be such support on the ensembles for this. 

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2023-2024 cold season stats

Lowest Max-39

Lowest Min-27

Sub 40 Highs-1

Sub 32 Highs-0

Freezes-13

Rainfall MTD-1.37”

Rainfall (Since 10/1)- 10.26”

Total snowfall-0.0”

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2008 had a fairly early (By recent standards) freeze in much of the Willamette Valley with that trough around Indigenous People's Day. But after that we torched until December. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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11 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Last year we didn’t freeze until 12/25 as well. 2008,2016 and 2021 were all exceptionally late first freezes that proceeded very good winters. 

SEA's average first freeze is about Nov. 14/15 and it looks like the it could be around Nov 9/10 this year per the models so it wouldn't exactly be out of the ordinary. In fact, I think that's probably quite normal and due given how late the first frost/freeze were last few years. 

Snow however before Nov. 17 is quite rare. 

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Just now, Sonny Summers said:

I would say that worked out pretty well.

It did. I would say, December 2008 is the GOAT Event of the 21st Century even down to about Salem, though 2016-17 was probably the best overall winter of the Century for Salem. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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11 minutes ago, Cloud said:

SEA's average first freeze is about Nov. 14/15 and it looks like the it could be around Nov 9/10 this year per the models so it wouldn't exactly be out of the ordinary. In fact, I think that's probably quite normal and due given how late the first frost/freeze were last few years. 

first freeze is like 2.5 weeks late or something over here.  I've had multiple frosts IMBY, but no official freeze yet that I'm aware of

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GFS throws us about 2.75" in a 24-hour period ending Saturday afternoon. 

Watching tomorrow morning, if we have precip around it will at the very least be mixed with snow. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, Cloud said:

SEA's average first freeze is about Nov. 14/15 and it looks like the it could be around Nov 9/10 this year per the models so it wouldn't exactly be out of the ordinary. In fact, I think that's probably quite normal and due given how late the first frost/freeze were last few years. 

Snow however before Nov. 17 is quite rare. 

Yeah we typically get our first freeze about that time as well. Sometimes we have to wait until late November/early December and in 08,16 and 21 it was mid/late December. 

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2023-2024 cold season stats

Lowest Max-39

Lowest Min-27

Sub 40 Highs-1

Sub 32 Highs-0

Freezes-13

Rainfall MTD-1.37”

Rainfall (Since 10/1)- 10.26”

Total snowfall-0.0”

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Just now, Doinko said:

Trough digs too far offshore it seems

Yeah, I was going to note that trend. Oh well. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Trough digs too far offshore it seems

The nice thing about the gfs operational model is if you don’t like what it’s showing…it’ll almost always be completely different the next time. 

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2023-2024 cold season stats

Lowest Max-39

Lowest Min-27

Sub 40 Highs-1

Sub 32 Highs-0

Freezes-13

Rainfall MTD-1.37”

Rainfall (Since 10/1)- 10.26”

Total snowfall-0.0”

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The good news is it is still pretty chilly.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Operational will waffle around, at the very least it looks active, wet, and possibly cold. Really all we can ask for going into mid-November.

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(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

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Temporary pullback right on schedule

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 16

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