Part II- January 2020 Obs and Discussion

[MossMan]

currently 22 degrees. High of 27 and a low of 21 so far today.

[Requiem]

It's hard to beat an overrunning event in PDX when the gorge is cold and a low tracks to our south. High potential stuff. PDX is fairly useless at anything else though. Cold onshore flow almost never works great, a bit too warm and the coast range murders everything like it is right now.

 

I think the last three winters have really demonstrated the potential of Seattle and Eugene well-- not so much PDX. I feel like everything that could go wrong for this location has somehow gone wrong within that timeframe.

[kokaneekidz]

I think the last three winters have really demonstrated the potential of Seattle and Eugene well-- not so much PDX. I feel like everything that could go wrong for this location has somehow gone wrong within that timeframe.

That may be so, yet PDX gets those crazy ICE storms that no other municipality this side of the Rockies can seem to muster/

[GHweatherChris]

On-shore flow looking healthy so far.

Not working here.

[Cloud]

Started snowing again. Sticking pretty fast. 

[Requiem]

That may be so, yet PDX gets those crazy ICE storms that no other municipality this side of the Rockies can seem to muster/

 

For sure. I'd pay to see one-- before 2008 it seemed like PDX would get a pretty major one every few years (2004, 2008, 1996, 1998, 1980, 1979, etc.). Hasn't been a good one in a while.

[andrewr]

Although I rarely post, I agree with letting Tim back on!

[kokaneekidz]

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Snowing good here and not under any radar returns. Low level moisture not being picked up by radar.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Yeah it’s gonna be a nowcast situation . I feel the RGEM/HRDPS have performed among the best yesterday/today so I’m hoping they’re good with tomorrow’s situation

 

It's certainly nice seeing hints of it in a few different models, it would be right up there with our major historic snowfalls.

[TacomaWaWx]

Snowing good here and not under any radar returns. Low level moisture not being picked up by radar.

same story here.

[MossMan]

Release the Tim!!

[Blizzard777]

It's hard to beat an overrunning event in PDX when the gorge is cold and a low tracks to our south. High potential stuff. PDX is fairly useless at anything else though. Cold onshore flow almost never works great, a bit too warm and the coast range murders everything like it is right now.

Agree, it does need to be active and lately is just hasn’t performed the way it used too

[Front Ranger]

Looks like Jim's area is doing pretty well.

[Requiem]

tbh being on here is making me just a tad bit salty after last year, so good night, hope everyone that missed out last night gets their due tonight.

[Cloud]

On-shore flow looking healthy so far.

 

What is your thought on this? Do you think the showers coming in will wrap around the Olympics heading N/NE or straight E? 

[wxmet]

First map Tim will post when he gets back is EPS showing warmth in the 6-10 day range 

[snow_wizard]

It's getting real out there.  About an inch of fresh snow tonight and coming down pretty good.  Temp below freezing and everything is freezing up.  This event has at least delivered something truly enjoyable.

[GHweatherChris]

tbh being on here is making me just a tad bit salty after last year, so good night, hope everyone that missed out last night gets their due tonight.

Do not post anymore tonight then, unlike last night lol

[Jesse]

The Tim thing is getting really stupid. I support the decision Fred made, and whatever timeline he sees fit to decide to let him back on. The more time he's away the more he will perhaps take some of the complaints leveled against him seriously (which he should), and thus the longer the honeymoon period we will see in which he is somewhat tolerable after returning.

 

Why don't we just focus on the event at hand enjoy the fact that we have a couple precious days here where someone can post a cold or snowy map without an immediate retort at every turn. I have been enjoying it.

[Timmy Supercell]

There is a blizzard happening in Klamath Falls, though the snowfall rates do not appear to be heavy. Flakes are very small. About 2-3" new snow outside. I will measure later.

[ShawniganLake]

What were their temps in Jan 2012?

YXX was 16/5 on the 18th in 2012

[snow_wizard]

Check out some of the temperatures up this way and in the Fraser Valley, this is a top tier cold airmass (at least relative to the last couple decades).

 

Yup.  This is a classic old school type setup.  Nice to see it in January.

[wxmet]

What is your thought on this? Do you think the showers coming in will wrap around the Olympics heading N/NE or straight E? 

 

I'm thinking NE following the flow around the low

[Front Ranger]

The Tim thing is getting really stupid. I support the decision Fred made, and whatever timeline he sees fit to decide to let him back on. The more time he's away the more he will take some of the complaints leveled against him seriously (which he should), and thus the longer the honeymoon period we will see in which he is somewhat tolerable after returning.

 

Why don't we just focus on the event at hand enjoy the fact that we have a couple precious days here where someone can post a cold or snowy map without an immediate retort at every turn. I have been enjoying it.

Had a feeling the "release the Tim" posts were gonna irk you.

 

Feeling confirmed!

[seattleweatherguy]

Stopped snowing the zone back up north of bothell/shoreline

[Jesse]

Had a feeling the "release the Tim" posts were gonna irk you.

 

Feeling confirmed!

 

Do you actually disagree with anything I said, or are you just phishing for a reaction?

[wxmet]

Light snow falling in West Seattle. We need better rates if this is gonna amount to anything.

[Front Ranger]

YXX was 16/5 on the 18th in 2012

Pretty close. This event might end up quite similar to that one in many ways. Can't really think of a closer comp, at least in the past few decades.

 

Of course, we don't know exactly how January 2020 will turn out...

[Deweydog]

I think the last three winters have really demonstrated the potential of Seattle and Eugene well-- not so much PDX. I feel like everything that could go wrong for this location has somehow gone wrong within that timeframe.

Two winters. We outperformed the Sounders pretty handily prior to that for quite a stretch. Things have a way of evening out.

[fubario]

I miss my 15 day dry/warm EPS maps!!

 

Bring back "Dry Guy"!

[GHweatherChris]

Offshore moisture is dwindling, darnit, shucks.

[seattleweatherguy]

Offshore moisture is dwindling, darnit, shucks.

Jay the old guy from nws is off the bandwagon for snow tonight citing the hrrr

[HighlandExperience]

Jay the old guy from nws is off the bandwagon for snow tonight citing the hrrr

The HRRR is not that good

[Jesse]

My posts on the subject were more tongue-in-cheek. I agree with some of this. He had it coming and it's nice to not have his usual pre-event/during-event "It's going to warmup in the LR" posts.

 

At the same time, this weird purgatory he is in kind of feels like we just put a grown *ss man in timeout. Did he deserve it? Yeah. Does it make it any less weird? Not really.

 

It's all definitely pretty weird. Have to remember we are dealing with a 50 year old here.

[seattleweatherguy]

The HRRR is not that good

Not for me at least let me link it through JAy twitter

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlbrechtJay/status/1216953905025671171

[Deweydog]

Pretty close. This event might end up quite similar to that one in many ways. Can't really think of a closer comp, at least in the past few decades.

 

Of course, we don't know exactly how January 2020 will turn out...

Definitely feels like 2012 down here. Pretty underwhelming with a brief transition event to close it out.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

You and me both.

I hope you can get a snow day on Thursday.

[SouthHillFrosty]

Snowing for an hour but hasn’t sticked yet....

[Front Ranger]

Do you actually disagree with anything I said, or are you just phishing for a reaction?

I don't mind him gone for a bit. Change of pace, if nothing else. You're right in that it at least temporarily gets his attention and will temporarily get him to tone down the trolling a tad.

 

But I don't feel strongly either way. He's a fixture on the forum, so I get why people are already getting Timstalgia