Niko Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Looks like much colder air arriving briefly after the snowstorm (not necessarily arctic air) as highs are expected to be on Friday in the mid 20s. Average high is 29F. Lows dropping to near 10 or lower w deep snowcover, so I am thinking we are heading at Single digits. Average low is 17F. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Frankly, I wouldn't jump on the 12z run. The GFS has, for days, been showing a big surge of moisture up over the cold air across the upper midwest. This is the first run that has suppressed the whole thing, so it's a big change.Looks like the Canadian still has it. A lot of moisture and every type of precipitation. Hopefully, something to track in the days to come. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 As of this morning there was just 5.3% of total ice cover on the great Lakes. That is a record low amount for February 4th going back to 1973. This beats the 5.64% on this date in 2016 the 6.1% on this date in 2012 as well as the 6.5% in 2002. Here is the ice cover map.https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=l&ext=ice&type=N&hr=00 For more information on Great Lakes Ice coverage here is a web site https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/data/ice/#historical Yet another stat that makes the point that we're staring one of the more recent futility winters in the face. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Currently 18F under mostly sunny skies. Headed down to 5F tonight. Highs in the 20s and lows in the teens for the foreseeable future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 As of this morning there was just 5.3% of total ice cover on the great Lakes. That is a record low amount for February 4th going back to 1973. This beats the 5.64% on this date in 2016 the 6.1% on this date in 2012 as well as the 6.5% in 2002. Here is the ice cover map.https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=l&ext=ice&type=N&hr=00 For more information on Great Lakes Ice coverage here is a web site https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/data/ice/#historicalThat's interesting. Didn't realize that it was that ice-free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yet another stat that makes the point that we're staring one of the more recent futility winters in the face. At this point I'm actively cheering for spring. I'm a HUGE winter fan, but I'll take records that are warm or "ice free" as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 The 12z Euro also shifted south and sped up next week's system, like the GFS, although it's still much farther north than the GFS. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Attm, cloudy and still averaging AN temps w readings holding at 33F. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Cpc showing a cold and snowy pattern in the works. Fingers crossed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Nothing but average to AN in the long range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Cpc showing a cold and snowy pattern in the works. Fingers crossed mid-late Feb is our last chance at a decent period. Of course it can still snow in March and early April, but sun angle and average temps are about to start rapidly rising. 2 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Currently at 33Fw cloudy skies. Temps have not since changed much. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Currently at 33Fw cloudy skies. Temps have not since changed much. 29F attm with a legit cold feeling WC of 24F Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 29F attm with a legit cold feeling WC of 24F You can almost smell the snow in the air. Btw: Still some huge snowpiles around and I mean big ones at pkg-lots of course. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 The 12z GFS suppressed next week's storm well south. The 00z has rain for all but the far north. There is certainly potential with this next storm, but it'll be a while before we have any idea who will get what. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Globals starting to show some decent snow up this way on Sunday. Relatively small precip shield but someone could get a decent hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Globals starting to show some decent snow up this way on Sunday. Relatively small precip shield but someone could get a decent hit. It's a potent little system. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Looking ahead into next week's pattern, the differences between the GEFS/EPS in terms of where the heaviest band of snow sets up for the mid week system is notable. The 00z GEFS are a lot farther north while the 00z EPS has been trending farther south over the last few runs. 00z GEFS...suggesting from the MN/IA border on north.... 00z EPS has a lot more snow breaking out in the central Plains/MW into the Lower GL's....a noticeable difference is the area from KS/NE/IA/MO and points east per the 00z EPS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Not a complaint. A fact. One of the worst winters (for winter lovers) I’ve ever seen in Grand Rapids. My weather office is not confident in any snow or cold anytime soon. It will be March before you know it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Attm, 22F under cloudy skies. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Looks like Sunday more snow is poised to move in. Have to watch and see how that plays out. 3 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Looks like Sunday more snow is poised to move in. Have to watch and see how that plays out.Models have been all over the place with the weekend clipper. Maybe they are starting to settle in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Models have been all over the place with the weekend clipper. Maybe they are starting to settle in.Looking interesting. Hopefully some GOM moisture can feed into this. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 GOM isn’t open for business with the weekend system. Nice little storm with some good forcing though. I wonder if models don’t continue the trend of strengthening this a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 We should start a thread for Sat/Sun because I'm out of the path of the current storm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 12Z HRRR is a snow/ice cocktail for me. Blargh. Decent for all of NW OH/S MI though. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 We don't have an ENSO thread but I found this article rather interesting and seeing what the CFSv2 is showing for later this year is rather interesting. Coincidence?? https://electroverse.net/harvard-study-shows-deep-oceans-are-actually-getting-colder/ The depths of the Pacific have turned markedly colder in recent weeks/months... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 The GFS is getting pretty frisky with the Sunday system, too. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 GFS wants to build a massive cold high down the Plains in the long term. Of course it squashes all of the snow chances around here. One run shows snow, next one doesn't. It has been doing this now for several days. Models are showing more cold for next week, but getting any consistency on snow chances is difficult. Been that way around here for going on 7 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I started a thread for the weekend system as it looks like our MN posters will be pretty happy with this one. Models are coming in to very good agreement already. http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/2178-28-29-upper-midwest-gl-snow-system/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 The GFS is back to showing rain for most of us next week. Ugh. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Here’s Accuweathers 2020Spring Projection Map. https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-forecasts/its-here-accuweathers-2020-us-spring-forecast/674083 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 12Z Euro has the storm next week starting on Wednesday. Hope this continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 12z Euro next week. The GFS has rain surging north through the region, but the Euro keeps it snow in the I-80 corridor. It is focusing the heaviest, longest-lasting snow in the west. The rest of us get a quick burst of good snow as moisture quickly surges through. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Thought this was a beautiful shot from the 511 Nebraska system along I 80 around York NE. Just a small amount of snow showing but the the landscape is great. https://hb.511.nebraska.gov/#cameras/albumView/266?timeFrame=TODAY&layers=cameras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 12Z Euro is frigid in the middle of the country later next week. Hopefully we get the snow before and have some legitimate cold before winter ends. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 My ski hill is absolutely trashed after that warm weather. Hard to believe it's the beginning of February and I'm stuck sliding down a sheet of ice trying to find snow. And 2/5 to my south, next storm to my north. I'm not one to usually complain but I really wanted to have good snow before I get corona and die, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 GFS nice big dog on the 18th, lol...always 2 weeks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 18z EC the whole run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Next week is looking very active. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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